Yea that's obviously dumb, but the difference is you hear about America's problems, but not the problems in other countries. Russia has its oil facilities regularly bombed. China has institutionalized corruption down to the local level. It's not all peaches and rainbows in every country on earth.
> It'd be great progress to actually detect what caused it in a timely manner and then do a proper cyber attribution.
Who says we aren't?
> Generally I think you are using a lot of big words to compensate for the fact that the US ignored the Minsk agreement.
Can you elaborate? What's the broader point you want to get at here?
> The russian government has been publicly joking about Trump, broadcasting nude pictures of the first lady and boasting about possessing the Epstein tapes. Before that was the hack of Hillary's mail server and fake news campaigns. No kinetic repercussions, even red carpet for putin's visit in Alaska.
Yes, totally. The United States should have bombed Russia for publicly joking about Donald Trump. Give me a break. Why even post stuff like this?
> Apart from all this a modern drone war would be a big problem for the US, and countries like Ukraine, russia and china are much better prepared for such a scenario.
Who do you think is operating in Ukraine and advising the Ukrainians and learning from their drone warfare techniques and capabilities? Do you really not know how this stuff works? Are you not aware that the United States is actively testing weapons in Ukraine to prepare for drone warfare? Is that why you're saying stuff like the US should have a kinetic response against Russia for posting pictures and joking about Donald Trump?
Heh ok. I guess so. The US was a "bitch" about weapons deliveries (quick hide the numbers) therefore every single country is incentivized to pursue nuclear capabilities. Great argument you have there.
> They started with the public humiliation after they felt empowered because there was no credible US response to all the previous hacks that you glossed over in your response.
Name the hacks that were glossed over and what you feel is the appropriate response.
> Yes, the US stopped credit card payments and destroyed some payment terminals. I imagine they weaponized the apple and android devices, maybe this still continues. For a couple of days, we had those impressive russian rockets which turned around and destroyed their launcher. And of course the geofenced US weapon systems. But was US able to shut down any vital russian systems except starlink and McDonald's?
Sanctions seem to do the trick. But you probably aren't reading about and paying attention to the state of the Russian economy, or what equipment they're sending their soldiers to war in Ukraine with. Well, when they're not supplied by China that is.
How many Russian energy and oil facilities have been targeted by Ukrainian drone and missile strikes, and who do you think helped with the targeting?
> Old lavrov still walks around openly with his apple watch just to farm payloads.
Sure, why isn't the EU arresting him then? Why don't they launch operation Lavrov and go capture him? There's got to be a reason right? What reason do you think that is? It can't have anything to do with the US though, you can only explain why the EU isn't doing it.
> There are observers from many countries on the ground in Ukraine, and US might even be testing some weapons.
Yes, there are, but the relevant ones are from the United States and the United Kingdom. There's no "might" about the US testing new weapons, it's just a simple fact. And they're testing those weapons, both offensive and defensive, against drone warfare. Ukraine shares intelligence with the US.
> However US efforts are overshadowed by better performance of European weapons systems, both old and new.
What specific US efforts are overshadowed by better performance of European weapon systems?
> Meanwhile the US artificially limits supply for US systems, so they get destroyed because they need to preserve ammo.
Which ones?
> There is a lot of empty posturing and the results are really not speaking for the US.
Well we took down Iran and Venezuela, both Russian allies. Cuba is not looking good either. We're seizing Russian shadow fleet tankers (we've seized more in a month than the EU has since the start of the war), we've upheld sanctions and increased sanctions while Putin and his henchmen's kids galavant around Europe and the US continues to provide intelligence sharing to help Ukraine with targeting, advice, materials and equipment, and more.
The EU of course has helped too, but unlike you I'm not downplaying one party's involvement and participation and instead defending one party, as I would defend the EU if someone claimed they weren't doing anything either.
