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0 pointslillecarl4mo ago0 comments

https://fishshell.com/ https://xon.sh/ https://www.nushell.sh/ https://elv.sh/

You're replying to someone that says POSIX shells are holding people back, not that the terminal is a bad idea, there are many alternative shells which offer benefits over POSIX shells. fish-shell has everything you want from an interactive shell included, xonsh is a mix Python shell, nushell and elvish are adding types and other things to shell.

The VT protocols that all shells have to confirm with are pretty dated and I'd love to throw them off the roof for something less stateful and with multiple font sizes but there's no arguing that text based interfaces are good.

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rtpg4mo ago

I'm a nushell user but like... job control in nushell is pretty miserable still unfortunately.

Nushell is definitely my fav of the set (xonsh is a neat experiment but ultimately is missing pipeline programming that nushell gives....), and I write personal shell scripts for myself mostly in nu.

Aside: for shell scripts, my preference is something like nu, then python + stdlib, giving me argparser etc, then just zsh/bash/whatever. Seriously annoying how POSIX shells do not give good argument parsing, tho I get it's a hard problem

bsimpson4mo ago

Now I'm tempted to try xonsh. It looks like it support the amount of bash that I know, and everything else I can just do in Python. (TBH, the things that I would need Python for are obscure enough in bash that I wouldn't otherwise write them myself.)

maxbond4mo ago

zsh isn't strictly POSIX compliant either but this is fair and I should've read that comment a bit deeper.

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