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0 pointsAnalemma_4mo ago0 comments

I'm not against the idea per se, but "institutional investors are buying up homes" is an effect, not a cause. Boomers demanded that "house values are never allowed to go down, only up" and put all manner of construction-preventing policy in place to make sure this happened, so of course institutional investors showed up. If there's an asset class which is only allowed to go up, why wouldn't they?

Banning institutional investment doesn't remove the "can only go up" laws and mindset, so I think (assuming this even happens, which it probably won't: TACO) the actual effect on prices will be minimal.

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tjwebbnorfolk4mo ago

I don't know if you've noticed, but politicians aren't in the business of root-cause analysis or actual solutions. They are in the business of making things either slightly better or significantly worse for certain people.

This would make the situation slightly better for people who want to buy houses.

Perhaps it's the case I'm 100% for this mainly because my extremely low expectations for politicians have been met and exceeded in this circumstance.

I don't know why we have to be negative about something that makes a small improvement in something that sucks.

Analemma_OP4mo ago

I have to admit, I'm very used to politicians tossing out non-fixes as a distraction when there's some problem, but your comment is the first case I've ever seen of a voter openly acknowledging that it's a non-fix, but being happy about it anyway. And not just that, but actually attacking the people pointing out that it's a non-fix, and casting sinister aspersions on their motives.

This isn't even shooting the messenger or the guy pointing out that the emperor has no clothes, I'm not sure there's an existing idiom for the thing you're doing.

tjwebbnorfolk4mo ago

There's no such thing as a "fix". Solutions don't exist in politics, only tradeoffs exist. This is a trade I'm quite happy to make.

If others don't want to make the trade, that's fine, I have no issue with that. But saying nothing will happen can't be true. If you remove demand from a market, that affects prices. There's no way I can take seriously a disagreement with tenets of Econ 101.

orangecat4mo ago

This would make the situation slightly better for people who want to buy houses.

To the extent that it has the effect of transferring some properties from rentals to sales, it's only better for the renter who wants to buy and who just barely wasn't able to. It's worse for renters who either don't want to buy or who still can't afford it, because rents will increase due to reduced supply.

rick_dalton4mo ago

How are you so sure this will be a definite improvement? Many well-meaning policies have had a measurable negative effect.

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tjwebbnorfolk4mo ago

This would make the situation slightly better for people who want to buy houses.

Perhaps it's the case I'm 100% for this mainly because my extremely low expectations for politicians have been met and exceeded in this circumstance.

I don't know why we have to be negative about something that makes a small improvement in something that sucks.

Analemma_OP4mo ago

This isn't even shooting the messenger or the guy pointing out that the emperor has no clothes, I'm not sure there's an existing idiom for the thing you're doing.

tjwebbnorfolk4mo ago

There's no such thing as a "fix". Solutions don't exist in politics, only tradeoffs exist. This is a trade I'm quite happy to make.

orangecat4mo ago

This would make the situation slightly better for people who want to buy houses.

rick_dalton4mo ago

How are you so sure this will be a definite improvement? Many well-meaning policies have had a measurable negative effect.

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