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0 pointsmullingitover5mo ago0 comments

The food pyramid went away over twenty years ago. It was discontinued in 2005, and the current guidelines are at https://www.fns.usda.gov/cnpp/myplate which launched in 2011.

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DetectDefect5mo ago· 6 in thread

Which are crafted by individuals with strong financial ties to the meat, dairy, or egg industries, thus should be disregarded by any reasonable person.

stevenwoo5mo ago

Yes, but I have distinct memories of these nutrition facts being taught to us in school for years, and our teachers asking us to report back how well we conformed to this supposed ideal diet as homework prior to any possible expectation that we children could be informed consumers.

giantg25mo ago

Then I would think the meat, dairy, and egg industry didn't get their money's worth. The My Plate guidelines have protein as less than 25% of the plate, and nothing says it has to be animal based.

DetectDefect5mo ago

The Court has actually ruled that the USDA violated federal law by hiding conflicts of interest in the Dietary Guidelines.

It is beyond insane that these are the official guidelines on what Americans should eat. Why would anyone defend them?

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panja5mo ago

Going through that link, it's hard to see where you came to that conclusion? It seems to have pretty reasonable dietary advice.

Mountain_Skies5mo ago

The food pyramid also seemed like pretty reasonable dietary advice until it wasn't. The skepticism expressed by other posters about where the guidelines originated from is well founded.

resoluteteeth5mo ago

> Which are crafted by individuals with strong financial ties to the meat, dairy, or egg industries, thus should be disregarded by any reasonable person.

The RFK jr version of the food pyramid now moves meat and dairy to the biggest section of the pyramid

nsxwolf5mo ago· 3 in thread

I just see one lobby, "Big Macronutrient". We all need to eat. I'll be worried when some company tries to make me eat actual plastic.

We know far less about any of this than we pretend to.

js25mo ago

> eat actual plastic.

Foreseeing such Crimes of the Future, David Cronenberg has already made that one into a movie.

lithocarpus5mo ago

I mean I've seen "low calorie bread" that was basically industrial bread cut with cellulose which is analogous to very fine sawdust.

aziaziazi5mo ago

Cellulose is one of the main constituant of plants and as a fiber, great for your gut:

> In human nutrition, cellulose is a non-digestible constituent of insoluble dietary fiber, acting as a hydrophilic bulking agent for feces and potentially aiding in defecation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellulose

Workshop sawdust would be a bad idea though.

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ecshafer5mo ago

Even the myplate doesn't seem right. There's probably too much fruit and too much dairy. There isn't any indication of legumes. Vegetables is too vague. There is no indication of fats, which are part of everything else.

SoftTalker5mo ago

But prior to that it was pushed very hard in elementary schools. I remember performing in a school play that was all about the food pyramid and nutrition, in lockstep with the government propaganda at the time.

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DetectDefect5mo ago· 6 in thread

Which are crafted by individuals with strong financial ties to the meat, dairy, or egg industries, thus should be disregarded by any reasonable person.

stevenwoo5mo ago

giantg25mo ago

Then I would think the meat, dairy, and egg industry didn't get their money's worth. The My Plate guidelines have protein as less than 25% of the plate, and nothing says it has to be animal based.

DetectDefect5mo ago

The Court has actually ruled that the USDA violated federal law by hiding conflicts of interest in the Dietary Guidelines.

It is beyond insane that these are the official guidelines on what Americans should eat. Why would anyone defend them?

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panja5mo ago

Going through that link, it's hard to see where you came to that conclusion? It seems to have pretty reasonable dietary advice.

Mountain_Skies5mo ago

The food pyramid also seemed like pretty reasonable dietary advice until it wasn't. The skepticism expressed by other posters about where the guidelines originated from is well founded.

resoluteteeth5mo ago

> Which are crafted by individuals with strong financial ties to the meat, dairy, or egg industries, thus should be disregarded by any reasonable person.

The RFK jr version of the food pyramid now moves meat and dairy to the biggest section of the pyramid

nsxwolf5mo ago· 3 in thread

I just see one lobby, "Big Macronutrient". We all need to eat. I'll be worried when some company tries to make me eat actual plastic.

We know far less about any of this than we pretend to.

js25mo ago

> eat actual plastic.

Foreseeing such Crimes of the Future, David Cronenberg has already made that one into a movie.

lithocarpus5mo ago

I mean I've seen "low calorie bread" that was basically industrial bread cut with cellulose which is analogous to very fine sawdust.

aziaziazi5mo ago

Cellulose is one of the main constituant of plants and as a fiber, great for your gut:

> In human nutrition, cellulose is a non-digestible constituent of insoluble dietary fiber, acting as a hydrophilic bulking agent for feces and potentially aiding in defecation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellulose

Workshop sawdust would be a bad idea though.

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ecshafer5mo ago

SoftTalker5mo ago

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