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0 pointspjmlp2mo ago0 comments

Technical person that knows UNIX since being introduced to it via Xenix in 1993, and has used plenty of UNIX flavours since then.

Some of us like the experience of Visual Studio, being able to do graphics development with modern graphics APIs that don't require a bazillion of code lines, with debuggers, not having to spend weekends trying to understand why yet again YouTube videos are not being hardware accelerated, scout for hardware that is supposed to work and then fails because the new firmaware update is no longer compatible,....

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g947o2mo ago

Your comment appears to address the question "why use Windows" (even though the answer doesn't really make sense to me), but that's not the question asked in GP. The question was "Why buy a Windows on ARM device"

pjmlpOP2mo ago

Ah, ok, that I really don't see the point.

PCs aren't vertically integrated from a single vendor, and thus it isn't as if Microsoft alone can drag a whole ecosystem into ARM, even if the emulation would work out great.

Windows NT was also multi-architecture, and eventually all variants died, because x86 was good enough, and when Itanium came to be, AMD got a workaround to keep x86 going forward.

Even gaming doesn't work that great on Windows ARM.

9999000009992mo ago

Microsoft isn't even putting in a fair effort.

They have the Surface line and own tons of game studios.

Where are the Gamepass games with Arm ?

Microsoft if they wanted to fund it right could get popular 3rd party software ported.

In retrospect it was hopelessly naive, but I even emailed Qualcomm asking if I could have a dev kit in exchange for porting one of my hobbyist games. They basically said thank you for asking but we don't have a program for this.

Now hypothetically let's say there was a Qualcomm Snapdragon Linux laptop. I could just port the code myself for most applications I actually need

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9999000009992mo ago

Ok.

But with an x86 device you can run Windows and Linux. With an Windows Arm device it's probably only going to work with Windows.

It's not clear what real advantages Arm gives you here.

pjmlpOP2mo ago

That much I agree on, indeed.

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0 pointspjmlp2mo ago0 comments

Technical person that knows UNIX since being introduced to it via Xenix in 1993, and has used plenty of UNIX flavours since then.

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g947o2mo ago

pjmlpOP2mo ago

Ah, ok, that I really don't see the point.

PCs aren't vertically integrated from a single vendor, and thus it isn't as if Microsoft alone can drag a whole ecosystem into ARM, even if the emulation would work out great.

Windows NT was also multi-architecture, and eventually all variants died, because x86 was good enough, and when Itanium came to be, AMD got a workaround to keep x86 going forward.

Even gaming doesn't work that great on Windows ARM.

9999000009992mo ago

Microsoft isn't even putting in a fair effort.

They have the Surface line and own tons of game studios.

Where are the Gamepass games with Arm ?

Microsoft if they wanted to fund it right could get popular 3rd party software ported.

Now hypothetically let's say there was a Qualcomm Snapdragon Linux laptop. I could just port the code myself for most applications I actually need

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9999000009992mo ago

Ok.

But with an x86 device you can run Windows and Linux. With an Windows Arm device it's probably only going to work with Windows.

It's not clear what real advantages Arm gives you here.

pjmlpOP2mo ago

That much I agree on, indeed.

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