undefined | Better HN

0 pointslibertine2mo ago0 comments

Right, so what's the scope of time we're talking about here? Are we talking about the world post WW2, or are we going back to the Roman Empire?

Because if you want to "win" arguments by randomly swinging hundreds of years to make a point, then it's pointless, because anyone can pick a point in thousands of years of History to show "look - they were bad here".

I think discussions about modern history are sufficient for the post-WW2 period, as there was a global consensus on international law and the Charter of the UN.

If you hold grievances about events hundreds of years old to make points about current events, then it's pointless.

0 comments

embedding-shape2mo ago

If you say "The US never ..." then the timeframe is the short duration the US has existed as "The USA".

libertineOP2mo ago

If you believe the US that colonized part of North America is the same as post-ww2 US, then I can understand.

I don't think they're the same, so many institutions were established that over the years that I don't see them as the former colony of the British crown.

But hey, if you want to discuss semantics, go for it.

embedding-shape2mo ago

Yeah, when you draw arbitrary limits (30 years for you it seems), it's easy to paint one side as the better one. Once you start to think a bit bigger, you start to realize most big nations act as the others, and it's just different flavors of "bad", yet they're all as bad as the others.

What about segregation then, is that recent enough for you? Or that wasn't about culture/language, so that too isn't applicable? I'm afraid that with rose-tinted glasses, everything has an explanation why your favorite is different than their favorite.

1 more reply

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse

0 pointslibertine2mo ago0 comments

Right, so what's the scope of time we're talking about here? Are we talking about the world post WW2, or are we going back to the Roman Empire?

I think discussions about modern history are sufficient for the post-WW2 period, as there was a global consensus on international law and the Charter of the UN.

If you hold grievances about events hundreds of years old to make points about current events, then it's pointless.

0 comments

embedding-shape2mo ago

If you say "The US never ..." then the timeframe is the short duration the US has existed as "The USA".

libertineOP2mo ago

If you believe the US that colonized part of North America is the same as post-ww2 US, then I can understand.

I don't think they're the same, so many institutions were established that over the years that I don't see them as the former colony of the British crown.

But hey, if you want to discuss semantics, go for it.

embedding-shape2mo ago

1 more reply

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse