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0 pointsgsf_emergency_62mo ago0 comments

Update: word that means both welfare and loyalty?

Gemini offers https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%EC%A0%95#:~:text=After%20fig...

And

https://aims.education/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/amanah.jpg...

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"Google AI Mode" suggests "allegiance" as an english word, which in its past: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage_(feudal) referred to a bond along which welfare flowed in one direction and loyalty in the other.

aebtebeten2mo ago

This is an excellent game. Anything better in hanzi than 仁? (if that character be "2" with a "person" radical, it would even wear its symbolism up front)

[oh, wait, according to LC the W and L are supposed to be different legs of an antisymmetric vertical, not a symmetric horizontal, relationship. So that's probably not appropriate at all?]

Re: H&A, I guess we could update GKC: "The Enlightenment ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult; and left untried."

We all love LLMs; would their advice be even more likely to be followed if there was a hardware device to issue smoke ("bells and smells") alongside their pronouncements? https://www.ancientsculpturegallery.com/wp-content/uploads/2...

gsf_emergency_6OP2mo ago

Fwiw i thought the (anti)symmetry behind the German "pun" feels kind of forced [in a Buxton sense maybe?] Only the [very] modern Korean examples passed my intuition test. Example 2 was certainly ironic, but the idea (ex3) of businesses being loyal to the customer comes closest to the (less ironic) vibe I was looking for. Noted also the level of emotionality compared to the others (including "amanah"?)

https://m.sohu.com/a/234156713_100184887/?pvid=000115_3w_a

The cross does not seem standard; urex "ren" (emotional, love--) is usually juxtaposed with "yi" (rationalistic, but more emotional than "solidarity"?) ditto for the other 2 arms.

Btw 義理 was the (rationalising?) Japanese example that ai mode returned to me.

"Xin"/"trustworthiness"/"amanah" seem to be comparable in "emo-rationality" (slightly more centred than "treue")-- to ask LLMs later)

PS- I tend to view/use LLMs as a realtime debugger for social media, not a therapist (yet). Debugger hardware (moistware? Miasmaware?) is another rabbit hole. :)

What is that painting? A torah allegory? (Sorry don't want to rabbit hole for a couple of days :)

PPS- will ask LLM on how to interest you in a Buxton-GKC-Kahneman/Tversky connection :))

aebtebeten2mo ago

You've mentioned hu, 狐; will it summon our resident 狐憑き?

The painting is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythia#/media/File:John_Collie... (my inspiration for https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39863255 )

PS. already interested, no need to bother the tensors!

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aebtebeten2mo ago

This is an excellent game. Anything better in hanzi than 仁? (if that character be "2" with a "person" radical, it would even wear its symbolism up front)

[oh, wait, according to LC the W and L are supposed to be different legs of an antisymmetric vertical, not a symmetric horizontal, relationship. So that's probably not appropriate at all?]

Re: H&A, I guess we could update GKC: "The Enlightenment ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult; and left untried."

gsf_emergency_6OP2mo ago

https://m.sohu.com/a/234156713_100184887/?pvid=000115_3w_a

The cross does not seem standard; urex "ren" (emotional, love--) is usually juxtaposed with "yi" (rationalistic, but more emotional than "solidarity"?) ditto for the other 2 arms.

Btw 義理 was the (rationalising?) Japanese example that ai mode returned to me.

"Xin"/"trustworthiness"/"amanah" seem to be comparable in "emo-rationality" (slightly more centred than "treue")-- to ask LLMs later)

PS- I tend to view/use LLMs as a realtime debugger for social media, not a therapist (yet). Debugger hardware (moistware? Miasmaware?) is another rabbit hole. :)

What is that painting? A torah allegory? (Sorry don't want to rabbit hole for a couple of days :)

PPS- will ask LLM on how to interest you in a Buxton-GKC-Kahneman/Tversky connection :))

aebtebeten2mo ago

You've mentioned hu, 狐; will it summon our resident 狐憑き?

The painting is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythia#/media/File:John_Collie... (my inspiration for https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39863255 )

PS. already interested, no need to bother the tensors!

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