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0 pointsCrossVR3mo ago0 comments

The EU did not call upon the US to disband because of fines levied against Volkswagen. Nor did the EU say that the Clean Air act was only enacted to attack the European car industry.

Instead the EU levied their own fines against VW and BMW including a €875 million fine in 2021. When can we expect the US to slap X with a multi-million dollar fine?

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fidotron3mo ago

You are deliberately missing the point. The EU would have continued to conveniently ignore VW diesel emissions had the US, a competing power, not pointed them out.

> Instead the EU levied their own fines against VW including a €875 million fine in 2021.

Only because the US found them out. The EU was quite happy with VW until then, and liked to act all smugly superior about emissions.

> When can we expect the US to slap X with a multi-million dollar fine?

For what exactly? What US laws have X, under Musk, broken?

morsch3mo ago

Per capita emissions in the US are what, twice as high as in the EU? And given that the US is ruled for the foreseeable future by outright climate change denialists, that's unlikely to change.

netsharc3mo ago

Hard to disagree with you: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/sep/24/uk-franc...

fidotron3mo ago

Thanks for digging that up.

And yet many persist in their delusions of EU infallibility.

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exceptione3mo ago

These are all unsubstantiated vibes. My advice is to exchange fido for intellego.

CrossVROP3mo ago

You are the one who's deliberately missing the point. The EU accepted the findings from the US and took regulatory action.

Whereas the US ignores the findings from the EU, refuses to take regulatory actions against big tech, enacts sanctions against EU officials and calls for the disbandment of the entire union.

A bit of an overreaction at the very least wouldn't you say?

fidotron3mo ago

What are you on about?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/sep/24/uk-franc...

That's the UK, France and Germany lobbying to keep the emissions tests inadequate so VW can continue.

> Whereas the US ignores the findings from the EU

What findings? That X acts as a forum for openly contradicting centrally decreed EU dogma and thus needs to be shut up? That's not a winning argument.

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amarcheschi3mo ago

You're talking as if eu officials knew about vw hiding its emissions

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fidotron3mo ago

You are deliberately missing the point. The EU would have continued to conveniently ignore VW diesel emissions had the US, a competing power, not pointed them out.

> Instead the EU levied their own fines against VW including a €875 million fine in 2021.

Only because the US found them out. The EU was quite happy with VW until then, and liked to act all smugly superior about emissions.

> When can we expect the US to slap X with a multi-million dollar fine?

For what exactly? What US laws have X, under Musk, broken?

morsch3mo ago

Per capita emissions in the US are what, twice as high as in the EU? And given that the US is ruled for the foreseeable future by outright climate change denialists, that's unlikely to change.

netsharc3mo ago

Hard to disagree with you: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/sep/24/uk-franc...

fidotron3mo ago

Thanks for digging that up.

And yet many persist in their delusions of EU infallibility.

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exceptione3mo ago

These are all unsubstantiated vibes. My advice is to exchange fido for intellego.

CrossVROP3mo ago

You are the one who's deliberately missing the point. The EU accepted the findings from the US and took regulatory action.

Whereas the US ignores the findings from the EU, refuses to take regulatory actions against big tech, enacts sanctions against EU officials and calls for the disbandment of the entire union.

A bit of an overreaction at the very least wouldn't you say?

fidotron3mo ago

What are you on about?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/sep/24/uk-franc...

That's the UK, France and Germany lobbying to keep the emissions tests inadequate so VW can continue.

> Whereas the US ignores the findings from the EU

What findings? That X acts as a forum for openly contradicting centrally decreed EU dogma and thus needs to be shut up? That's not a winning argument.

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amarcheschi3mo ago

You're talking as if eu officials knew about vw hiding its emissions

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse