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0 pointsvintermann4mo ago0 comments

> How do you feel about entities taking your face off of your personal website and plastering it on billboards smiling happily next to their product?

That would be misrepresentation. Even Stallman isn't OK with that. You can take one of his opinion pieces and publish it as your own. Or you can attach his name to it.

However, if you're editing it and releasing it under his name, clearly you're simply lying, and nobody is OK with that. People have the right to be recognized as authors of things they did author (if they so desire) and they have a right to NOT be associated with things they didn't.

> At the end of the day it’s very gross when we are exploited without our knowledge or permission so rich groups can get richer.

The second part is the entirety of the problem. If I'm "exploited" in a way where I can't even notice it, and I'm not worse off for it, how is it even exploitation? But people amassing great power is a problem no matter if they do it with "legitimate" means or not.

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Forgeties794mo ago

If somebody is stealing from your bank account every week and you just don’t notice it, are you not being stolen from? Has nobody stolen your credit card and used it until the moment you notice the charges. I don’t really think we can go “if a tree fall in the forest and nobody is around to hear it…” about this.

Stallman has his opinions on software, I have my opinions on my visual work. I don’t get really how that applies here or why that settles this matter.

vintermannOP4mo ago

If someone steals from my bank account I certainly CAN notice it even if I don't immediately, and I'm certainly worse off.

That's such a bad straw man I wonder if you're really supporting the position you claim to be supporting. Maybe you're just trying to give it a bad name.

Your opinion isn't on visual work, but visual property. You don't demand to be paid for your work - your labor. Rather you traded that for the dream of being paid rent on a capital object, in perpetuity (or close enough). Artists lost to the power-mongers when we bit at that bait.

Forgeties794mo ago

If you think that’s a bad example so be it but I’m not attempting to make a strawman or give anything a bad name.

I don’t really know where all the hostility came from in this conversation but I think it’s best if we move on.

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Forgeties794mo ago

Stallman has his opinions on software, I have my opinions on my visual work. I don’t get really how that applies here or why that settles this matter.

vintermannOP4mo ago

If someone steals from my bank account I certainly CAN notice it even if I don't immediately, and I'm certainly worse off.

That's such a bad straw man I wonder if you're really supporting the position you claim to be supporting. Maybe you're just trying to give it a bad name.

Forgeties794mo ago

If you think that’s a bad example so be it but I’m not attempting to make a strawman or give anything a bad name.

I don’t really know where all the hostility came from in this conversation but I think it’s best if we move on.

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