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0 pointsnickpinkston13y ago0 comments

HP actually has IP around 3DP and until recently sold Stratasys machines under their private label. I say recently because it was shown that HP sucked at selling them and ceded its territory back to Stratasys.

Also - some companies (ZCorp / ProMetal) use HP print heads to deposit less viscous materials for powder bed 3D printers

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andyjsong13y ago· 4 in thread

So I went to the Stratasys site and saw that there entry level printer was $10k, would this be the equivalent of a Ferrari vs. a kit car conversion?

Why doesn't Stratasys make a Honda Civic of 3D printers?

d1plo1d13y ago

To Stratasys $10k is probably already the Honda Civic of 3D printers.

To go with an entirely different analogy, Stratasys is the old, lumbering baron of 3d printing. Conversely, RepRap, Makerbot, Ultimaker, MakerGear, Type A and now Panda Robotics are all the agile, new kids who were raised on a healthy diet of open source. Having invaded the Barons lands they are now zipping around rearranging the Baron's fiefdom at 100km/h and generally trying every way of doing everything all at once. My bet is firmly on the new guys, how they'll divide the spoils once Stratasys has been finally overwhelmed by all this chaos is the bit I'm curious about.

nickpinkstonOP13y ago

Yea, it's a good question about what Statasys' response will be, but in the near term they see, realistically, that much of their customer base never heard of the other FDM printers. They've got a sales force and install base, so I bet they're good for years to come. Still tho - they're mostly likely to be disrupted in the space.

Honestly, the editor of Modern Machine Shop hadn't heard of Make Magazine when I asked - the maker hobbyists and manufacturers have little overlap surprisingly.

andyjsong13y ago

This comment will probably get some flack, but it sounds like they need to get bought out by a PE firm and go through a massive reorganization. Layoff all the top management brass, keep engineers that have a low-cost printer in their homes and hire someone like Bre to keep things lean.

Otherwise, they will watch their market share erode until one of the scrappy startup kids get enough bank to buy them out for pennies on the dollar.

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wmf13y ago

From their perspective, $10K probably is the Honda Civic of 3D printers. They probably see all the low-cost stuff as "toys" that aren't usable for "real work". It's just the innovator's dilemma part infinity.

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