As it is, my emacs and e-mail are almost fully separated due to (I'm assuming intentional) lack of a simple method of interoperability.
Then you can just do (eg. in mbsync)
PassCmd "pizauth show accountname"
Everything in emacs becomes a Project.
Another benefit is that using standard mailbox formats and separate tools allows you to configure, replace, and integrate any part of the setup. With traditional clients you're locked into whatever they support and allow you to configure.
The pain points are what other commenters have said:
- I don't find the default config a good fit for me, and run it heavily customized. As someone said everything in Emacs turns into a project...
- Performance can be an issue, especially indexing new mail (and especially if you like to lug around a copy of most of your emails locally as I do). On a laptop while traveling this used to be more of a problem, but newer versions are notieably quicker and newer laptops have better battery life.
- HTML rendering isn't great. Thankfully I don't get too many important messages that isn't just plain text. This might be a reasonable use case for xwidget-webkit though I'd imagine there are security/privacy issues to work out. (Another Emacs project -- yay!)
When I started I thought it would be an efficient way to get through lots of emails, and it has been for the most part. I'm just not sure I've saved time overall unless one counts the hours configuring it as "entertainment / hobby" rather than "work".
Also, the real test would have been my much more voluminous work email!
The HTML rendering isn't great, as you said, but you are two keystrokes from opening that email in a browser, if you have to.
And I have tweaked the config several times now, but I think that's mostly because I'm changing my (and the charity's) email, which involves a lot of shuffling about. Again, in six months, I'll have another look and decide whether it _really_ helped.
I've not seen the other things you mentioned. I only check for email every 10 minutes, but opening and (especially) searching for emails seem much faster than doing it in Gmail. Plus, I can do searches across email accounts, like all unreads across all three accounts. That was definitely slower in the online clients.
Finally, there's a quick ('a' then 'v') way to just open a message in a browser if the HTML is too thick.
Why not? Does your job mandate that you watch your inbox constantly, and respond immediately to all messages? How do you get anything else done?
This is the reason I haven't tried all the email tools that seem fun to play with, but not worth it :/
And the search.... fantastic. Best email search and virtual folder capability I've used on any platform.
https://davmail.sourceforge.net/images/davmailArchitecture.p...
I remember the two main reasons I switched from Gnus: 1) there was no good reliable search, 2) I couldn't drag&drop attachments into E-mails and back so I was spending a lot of time pointing to files. I hope both things have improved since then.
concerning (1): I have no offline sync in place, all my emails stay on the server. The IMAP protocol has a decent server-side search included[0], combined with Gnus unified search syntax[1], I enjoy a hassle-free search experience.
[0]: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/gnus/Sea...
[1]: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/gnus/Sea...
Being able to write simple expressions to filter email, mass delete, and avoid embedded javascript are killer features. I can run all html through w3m and still have nicely rendered emails.
I still use a phone app for on the go browsing, but during work hours I have mutt open alongside neovim all day long.
Has anyone figured out a solution to keep this value updated? One issue is that I'm never sure when the new TLS certificate has rolled out.
Currently, only Thunderbird with the proprietary "OWL" extension somehow manages to connect despite the block. My understanding is that they somehow abuse the web interface to do so, instead of actually going through the proper protocols, but not sure.
If someone has another way to access Exchange servers that intentionally blocks non-Outlook clients I’d love to hear about it.
My Uni also made it difficult but I succeeded in setting up a working davmail, using the exchange protocol.
Mail my username at gmail.com if you think I can help.
Gateway: Exchange Protocol: O365Interactive OWA or EWS (Exchange) URL: https://outlook.office365.com/EWS/Exchange.asmx
(follow the instructions at https://davmail.sourceforge.net/faq.html)
though I tend to stick with org
Authorize once in a web dashboard, then use your accounts as if they didn’t need OAuth (ie. normal IMAP, POP3 or SMTP).
