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0 pointslokimedes4mo ago0 comments

Which is based on Apple Webkit? The winner is always the last marketable brand.

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Both are based on khtml. We could be living in a very different world if all that effort stayed inside the KDE ecosystem

embedding-shape4mo ago

Which came from "the KDE HTML Widget" AKA khtmlw. Wonder if that's the furthest we can go?

> if all that effort stayed inside the KDE ecosystem

Probably nowhere, people rather not do anything that contribute to something that does decisions they disagree with. Forking is beautiful, and I think improves things more than it hurts. Think of all the things we wouldn't have if it wasn't for forking projects :)

Dylan168074mo ago

On the other hand if that had stopped google from having a browser they push into total dominance with the help of sleazy methods, maybe that would have been better overall.

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h33t-l4x0r4mo ago

Bah! Just another "Hello World" fork if you ask me.

josephg4mo ago

> Both are based on khtml. We could be living in a very different world if all that effort stayed inside the KDE ecosystem

How so?

Do you think thousands of googlers and apple engineers could be reasonably managed by some KDE opensource contributors? Or do you imagine google and apple would have taken over KDE? (Does anyone want that? Sounds horrible.)

sheepscreek4mo ago

I think they meant we wouldn’t have had Safari, Chrome, Node, Electron, VSCode, Obsidian? Maybe no TyeScript or React either (before V8, JavaScript engines sucked). The world might have adopted more of Mozilla.

dragonwriter4mo ago

Note that these are somewhat different kinds of "based on".

Chromium is an upstream dependency (by way of Electron) for VSCode.

WebKit was an upstream dependency of Chromium, but is no more since the Blink/WebKit hard fork.

znort_4mo ago

that's a bit misleading. it was based on webcore which apple had forked from khtml. however google found apple's addition to be a drag and i think very little of it (if anything at all, besides the khtml foundation) survived "the great cleanup" and rewrite that became blink. so actually webkit was a just transitional phase that led to a dead end and it is more accurate to say that blink is based on khtml.

benoau4mo ago

It's "based on WebKit" like English is based on Germanic languages.

antonvs4mo ago

English is a Germanic language. It’s part of the West Germanic branch of the Germanic family of languages.

master-lincoln4mo ago

This fact adds nothing to the discussion

onion2k4mo ago

That drives exactly $0 of Apple's revenue. It's only a win if you care about things that don't matter.

hu34mo ago

And Apple is not even the last node in the chain.

WebKit came from KDE's khtml

Every year is the year of Linux.

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