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0 pointsraw_anon_11115mo ago0 comments

And you are perfectly capable of interacting with iMessage users now through SMS/MMS/RCS

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Their RCS implementation is so incredibly broken, and I can tell as an Android user.

It seems like every other message gets downgraded to SMS.

That's because SMS is a horribly broken, hacky standard, and RCS has to inherit and deal with all the horrifying edge-cases of SMS, MMS, and legacy cruft going back prior to the turn of the millenium.

Then it has to accomodate every other intersted party, many of which hate each other. Apple has always been a bit of an odd duck ("Think Different" has been internalized for some time), but Verizon actively hates OTT messaging as they can't charge for it. Samsung would rather run their own RCS implementation to create and advertise "Samsung RCS", and Google can't push too hard without getting EU attention for antitrust (again).

RCS has been stuck in limbo-hell for years for multiple reasons, none of which are easy.

monocasa5mo ago

The specific issue I'm talking about is how Apple for some reason ties the presence of RCS persistently to a contact that requires the user to manually go in and adjust, otherwise the conversation switches back and forth between SMS and RCS as each participant texts back and forth.

This is a problem no other vendors have, and is solely caused by Apple.

https://www.androidauthority.com/android-iphone-rcs-messagin...

array_key_first5mo ago

Yes, except that SMS/MMS sucks major ass, and RCS is really, really bad too. Not as awful as SMS, but close, and missing various barebones features.

That's not Apple's fault per se, but of course, they contribute to it. They should open up the iMessage protocol.

raw_anon_1111OP5mo ago

So what you are saying is that for Apple to create a better experience, they have to add to the industry standard - the same as AirPods.

array_key_first5mo ago

Yes, that would be mutually beneficial both for Apple customers and people who are not Apple customers.

raw_anon_1111OP5mo ago

Why is that on Apple instead of the hundreds of other manufacturers and Google? If Google wants a better ecosystem, it’s on them since according to them Android was suppose to be the “definition of open”.

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monocasa5mo ago

Their RCS implementation is so incredibly broken, and I can tell as an Android user.

It seems like every other message gets downgraded to SMS.

xethos5mo ago

RCS has been stuck in limbo-hell for years for multiple reasons, none of which are easy.

monocasa5mo ago

This is a problem no other vendors have, and is solely caused by Apple.

https://www.androidauthority.com/android-iphone-rcs-messagin...

array_key_first5mo ago

Yes, except that SMS/MMS sucks major ass, and RCS is really, really bad too. Not as awful as SMS, but close, and missing various barebones features.

That's not Apple's fault per se, but of course, they contribute to it. They should open up the iMessage protocol.

raw_anon_1111OP5mo ago

So what you are saying is that for Apple to create a better experience, they have to add to the industry standard - the same as AirPods.

array_key_first5mo ago

Yes, that would be mutually beneficial both for Apple customers and people who are not Apple customers.

raw_anon_1111OP5mo ago

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