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0 pointsvasco4mo ago0 comments

This is anti-competitive measures, it's not like it's the only thing they do like this. The charging cables were the same.

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monerozcash4mo ago

If this is about lightning, what connector do you think apple should have used? USB-C came out long after lightning.

formerly_proven4mo ago

> USB-C [Aug 2014] came out long after lightning [Sep 2012].

1 year 11 months :)

The old 30-pin connector before Lightning came from 2003.

Meanwhile it took until 2023 for iPhones to use USB-C.

    30-pin     2003 - 2012 (2014)
    Lighting   2012 - 2023 (2025)
    USB-C AAPL utter mess -
               iPhone 2023 -
    USB-C RoW  2014 -

raw_anon_11114mo ago

How was USB C on Apple a “mess” when it came out on the iPhone 14? It supported all of the standard USB protocols - video, networking, mass storage, audio etc.

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monerozcash4mo ago

Yeah, I don't think the connector criticism of Apple really stands up to any scrutiny. 30-pin was strictly better than USB-based solutions when it came out, as was Lightning. They supported both of those for a very long time and kept tons of iDevice accessories around the world functioning.

raw_anon_11114mo ago

Yes because Apple has a monopoly on - Bluetooth headphones you can use with Android devices??

Do console makers have to make sure that their accessories work with other consoles? Do TV manufacturers have to ensure their remotes work with other TVs?

And no you never had to buy Apple branded or licensed charging cables.

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monerozcash4mo ago

If this is about lightning, what connector do you think apple should have used? USB-C came out long after lightning.

formerly_proven4mo ago

> USB-C [Aug 2014] came out long after lightning [Sep 2012].

1 year 11 months :)

The old 30-pin connector before Lightning came from 2003.

Meanwhile it took until 2023 for iPhones to use USB-C.

    30-pin     2003 - 2012 (2014)
    Lighting   2012 - 2023 (2025)
    USB-C AAPL utter mess -
               iPhone 2023 -
    USB-C RoW  2014 -

raw_anon_11114mo ago

How was USB C on Apple a “mess” when it came out on the iPhone 14? It supported all of the standard USB protocols - video, networking, mass storage, audio etc.

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monerozcash4mo ago

raw_anon_11114mo ago

Yes because Apple has a monopoly on - Bluetooth headphones you can use with Android devices??

Do console makers have to make sure that their accessories work with other consoles? Do TV manufacturers have to ensure their remotes work with other TVs?

And no you never had to buy Apple branded or licensed charging cables.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse