The whole space is largely marketing at this point, intentionally conflating all these philosophical terms because we don't want to face the ugly reality that LLMs are a dead end to "AGI".
Not to mention, it is not on those who don't believe in Santa Clause to prove that Santa Clause doesn't exist. It is on those who believe in Santa Clause to show how AGI can possibly emerge from next token prediction.
I would question if you even use the models much really because I thought this in 2023 but I just can't imagine how anyone who uses the models all the time can possibly think we are on the path to AGI with LLMs in 2025.
It is almost like the idea of a thinking being emerging from text was a dumb idea to start with.
