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0 pointsflakiness7mo ago0 comments

It's not super clear from the post, but if I read it correctly there are two modifications suggested.

   - 1: Separate verification type for "student and hobbyist"
   - 2: "advanced flow" for "power users" that allows sideloading of unverified apps - I imagine this is some kind of scare-screen, but we'll see.

What you describe as "worst of both worlds" is about point 1. I'm not sure point 2 is powerful enough to suppor things like f-droid, but again, we'll see.

- 1: Separate verification type for "student and hobbyist" - 2: "advanced flow" for "power users" that allows sideloading of unverified apps - I imagine this is some kind of scare-screen, but we'll see.

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notepad0x907mo ago· 5 in thread

malware are good at getting users to click past scare screens unfortunately. this isn't a solved problem, even with desktop browsers.

zarzavat7mo ago

If you don't look both ways when you cross the road, then you may get hit by a car. The solution is to pay attention.

It's acceptable to build a system where human error can lead to catastrophic consequences, even death. Every time you go outside you encounter many of these systems.

Not everything in life can be made 100% safe, but that's no reason to stop living.

consp7mo ago

> The solution is to pay attention.

Swindlers work by that is a story as old as time. Even snakeoil salesmen were good at distracting people from obvious signs of false promises and warnings. People often overestimate their own capabilities greatly, same as there are no bad drivers on the road when you ask people about themselves.

vladms7mo ago

I'm afraid the solution is to learn from mistakes. Which can be painful, takes effort, and at which some people will fail.

Society must be aware we are balancing "protection" and "responsibility". If you want some freedom you must have some responsibility.

I do not mind offering to some people more "protection" if it is clear they give up some "freedom". Some might accept the risks, some will not.

IshKebab7mo ago

There are definitely things you could do to improve it though. E.g. you can't activate "I know what I'm doing" mode while on the phone or for 1 hour after a phone call. Someone else suggested a one-day cooldown.

Also for the specific scam they mentioned, why do apps even have permission to intercept all notifications?? Just fix that!

mzajc7mo ago

> why do apps even have permission to intercept all notifications?? Just fix that!

I fear "fixing" it would mean removing the feature entirely, which breaks many workflows. Primarily this is used for accessibility (and is controlled in the accessibility settings), but applications such as KDE Connect also make good use of it.

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