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0 pointsaaomidi5mo ago0 comments

Market pressure can change game studios behavior.

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Battlefield 6 might never run on the average Linux desktop, but I could see a future where it would run on Steam hardware in an end-to-end Secure Boot environment.

Gamers don't like playing with cheaters.

aaomidiOP5mo ago

We’re going to have to figure out a better way of dealing with cheaters.

You could be playing against an AI model specifically trained on that game. No anti cheat is going to detect that.

LexiMax5mo ago

I find it much more likely that Valve enables Secure Boot on their Steam hardware.

I imagine that if this happens, it will be followed by popular Linux distros finally becoming serious about their Secure Boot implementations, instead of simply shimming it or seen as a rarely-used feature reserved for enterprise distros like RHEL.

Some of us actually think that having some sort of validation that our OS hasn't been tampered with is a feature and not a bug. It's only a problem when companies parlay that validation into anti-consumer DRM - but that's a political problem, not a technological one.

array_key_first5mo ago

It's both a technological and political problem.

All the platforms that went all-in on secure boot like things and attestation are anti-consumer hellholes that slurp all your data. The evidence just does not look good. Maybe Linux is different, but it's swimming against the tide here. It would be the first of it's kind.

aaomidiOP5mo ago

But again this doesn’t solve the problem where an AI model can just play the game.

Hikikomori5mo ago

Or rebooting to a secure mode where you can only run the game and maybe discord.

cestith5mo ago

A few anti-cheat systems rather than inspecting the local machine look for things like impossibly fast target acquisition in FPS games, or the server noticing when a shot is taken on an opponent who’s supposed to be totally obscured. Those aren’t perfect, but they don’t require kernel-level anticheat.

rangestransform5mo ago

Cheating detection server side is expensive and probabilistic at best, kernel level anti cheat is a purely financial decision

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LexiMax5mo ago

Battlefield 6 might never run on the average Linux desktop, but I could see a future where it would run on Steam hardware in an end-to-end Secure Boot environment.

Gamers don't like playing with cheaters.

aaomidiOP5mo ago

We’re going to have to figure out a better way of dealing with cheaters.

You could be playing against an AI model specifically trained on that game. No anti cheat is going to detect that.

LexiMax5mo ago

I find it much more likely that Valve enables Secure Boot on their Steam hardware.

array_key_first5mo ago

It's both a technological and political problem.

aaomidiOP5mo ago

But again this doesn’t solve the problem where an AI model can just play the game.

Hikikomori5mo ago

Or rebooting to a secure mode where you can only run the game and maybe discord.

cestith5mo ago

rangestransform5mo ago

Cheating detection server side is expensive and probabilistic at best, kernel level anti cheat is a purely financial decision

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