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0 pointsbuellerbueller7mo ago0 comments

>Rampant government cuts, attacking healthcare subsidies, attacking LGBT Americans, threatening universities, ego-driven tariff policy, and just generally poor economic stewardship, should be the electoral strategy. It sure seems to be working out for republicans.

I agree with none of these policies. I also just disagree with the woke left's focus on identity politics, because I see it as a losing battle, electorally. I prefer the left to focus on labor and economic issues, which apply broadly to all, regardless of their identity.

I believe in Maslow's hierarchy of needs, and insofar as it informs my political views, food shelter and jobs are far more important issues than identitarian issues. Solve the basic needs first, and when everyone has a fair piece of our wealthy country's economic pie, I suspect we will find the identity issues are easier to address, with broader support.

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Forgeties797mo ago· 2 in thread

You keep saying “the woke left’s” identity politics as the Trump administration uses the government to enforce right wing identity politics and stifle free speech. Do you also find that objectionable? Or do you think this is purely a problem on the left?

My guess is the only difference is you agree with conservative identity politics and not liberal identity politics, so one is seen as “natural and normal” and the other seems “manufactured and forced on people.” I could be wrong, but that is generally my experience in these conversations.

buellerbuellerOP7mo ago

>You keep saying “the woke left’s” identity politics as the Trump administration uses the government to enforce right wing identity politics and stifle free speech. Do you also find that objectionable?

Yes.

> Or do you think this is purely a problem on the left?

I am not a member of the right wing parties, so I have no pull with them. I also think they are less likely to change.

>My guess is the only difference is you agree with conservative identity politics and not liberal identity politics

Your guess is wrong. I think all identity politics are bad politics until we solve basic human needs stuff like feed and house everyone and jobs that pay a living wage for anyone who wants one.

I get it, I don't fit into your preconcieved box, but the boxes are designed by the oligarchy who wants to keep us in separate boxes, so we can't unite.

Forgeties797mo ago

It’s not about a preconceived box. It’s that you keep saying “the woke left” and only “the woke left” despite the fact that it is Republicans controlling all three branches of government right now. It is republicans doing the thing you’re claiming you’re against. Yet (again) it’s all “the woke left, the woke left.” Omissions can be louder than words, and yours are screaming.

Also in my experience, most people who keep grinding their axe against “the woke left” are not as moderate/above party politics as they make themselves out to be.

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