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0 pointsshalmanese6mo ago0 comments

Miele has home dishwashers that do this now. But like all things consumer, it's a proprietary system that's designed to keep you locked into a subscription relationship with the company.

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lloeki6mo ago

Recently bought a washing machine.

I looked at Miele, saw the requirement for using their refill containers (TwinDos†). Noticed an option for using not theirs as a fallback but it all seemed a bit convoluted.

Then I took a look at some high-ish end LG and they had sort of the same principle (EZDispense††), except the dispenser sits like a usual tray that you fill in with regular off-the-shelf liquid stuff, and then you're good for a while. The whole wifi/app stuff is entirely optional, the machine is fully functional through the panel without the app. So I got that one, very happy so far.

† https://www.mieleusa.com/c/laundry-tech-washing-machines-aut...

†† https://www.lg.com/in/magazine/easing-laundry-with-ezdispens...

amluto6mo ago

I have one of these. The detergent gizmo is a hard plastic shell with an interesting shape, powdered detergent inside, and a plastic film cover that looks like it’s heat-sealed on. It contains no electronics whatsoever. You can refill it, and the only limitation is that it’s kind of awkward to open, fill, and re-seal. The easiest way IMO is to cut a large flap in the hard plastic on the sides, then tape it down after refilling. It works fine.

Also, the Miele powdered detergent, in my personal opinion, sucks. And it leaves some residue behind. Yuck.

edb_1236mo ago

True for their dishwashers. But to their credit, Miele's washing machines actually come with two additional cassettes that you can fill with your (liquid) detergent of choice. You don't have to use Miele's proprietary ones.

JumpCrisscross6mo ago

PowerDisk? As long as you load salt and rinse aid, it works like a charm. As you said, if you want to save a bit of money, you can 3D print a replacement. But they last long enough that I don’t mind the cost.

amluto6mo ago

What do salt and rinse aid have to do with it? Those have been things you load into a reservoir when prompted for years. And for those of us who live in HN’s homeland where the water is very soft, you may get better results by not loading rinse aid (there’s some moderately compelling evidence that rinse aid is rather toxic to digestive tracts, and it doesn’t even have much rinsing benefit if you’re rinsing with soft-enough and low-enough-TDS water), and the salt is also unnecessary with soft water. You do need to poke at the dishwasher settings to make it happy without rinse aid and salt, but this is well documented in the manual.

JumpCrisscross6mo ago

> What do salt and rinse aid have to do with it?

If you should be using them and aren’t, the detergent in the disks doesn’t work. With them (I live with hard water, though a home filter takes a lot of it out) the disks work quite well in my experience.

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lloeki6mo ago

Recently bought a washing machine.

I looked at Miele, saw the requirement for using their refill containers (TwinDos†). Noticed an option for using not theirs as a fallback but it all seemed a bit convoluted.

† https://www.mieleusa.com/c/laundry-tech-washing-machines-aut...

†† https://www.lg.com/in/magazine/easing-laundry-with-ezdispens...

amluto6mo ago

Also, the Miele powdered detergent, in my personal opinion, sucks. And it leaves some residue behind. Yuck.

edb_1236mo ago

JumpCrisscross6mo ago

amluto6mo ago

JumpCrisscross6mo ago

> What do salt and rinse aid have to do with it?

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