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0 pointsaustinjp6mo ago0 comments

> Araq will state his personal & honest opinions, which may come off as abrasive or "un-welcoming" in your opinion. I don't agree with everything he says but that's OK.

Nope. This is a sop, an equivalent to the non-apology "I'm sorry you took what I said so badly".

Aggression masquerading as "honesty" has no place in any organisation that wants to be taken seriously.

It's most certainly not "OK" when Andreas' personal opinions are expressed in ad-hominem attacks.

Nim unfortunately has a toxic Dictator at the top, and his subordinates defend his behaviours. While this continues nobody should take Nim seriously.

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archargelod6mo ago

> Nim unfortunately has a toxic Dictator at the top

Araq has opinions that he defends, but you can and absolutely should try to sway or change them. I see this all the time on Discord and Forum. And I see people win over just as much as them losing.

I don't have a strong opinion if this is healthy or not, but it's probably why I would be a bad BDFL =). All in all, I don't think dictatorship is a right word here.

austinjpOP6mo ago

My conversation with Andreas on a public forum featured ad-hominem attacks from Andreas which continued in a private email exchange between us. The man is closed-minded and had zero interest in discussion beyond aggressive insults. You're welcome to contact me privately if you'd like to read the exchange.

cepera6mo ago

>Nim unfortunately has a toxic Dictator at the top, and his subordinates defend his behaviours. While this continues nobody should take Nim seriously.

I can mention just exactly the same pattern with one widespreaded OS that anyone is taking seriously.

And I know one very popular and often mentioned systems programming language with "community" driven design process with inclusive and stuff which is in some kind of stagnation without BDFL (async fragmented ecosystem without C++ burden of 40 years of legacy).

Why do you think that "welcoming" is a must for successful IT projeсt?

austinjpOP6mo ago

Do you think aggression is a must for any successful project? Or can you entertain the possibility that projects might progress even further and faster without it?

You point to Linux but assume that Linus' infamous foul behaviour has been beneficial. This is a very basic confusion of correlation and causation.

You suggest that being "welcoming" is antithetical to "success" without defining "success".

Also, note what the "B" stands for in BDFL.

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archargelod6mo ago

> Nim unfortunately has a toxic Dictator at the top

Araq has opinions that he defends, but you can and absolutely should try to sway or change them. I see this all the time on Discord and Forum. And I see people win over just as much as them losing.

I don't have a strong opinion if this is healthy or not, but it's probably why I would be a bad BDFL =). All in all, I don't think dictatorship is a right word here.

austinjpOP6mo ago

cepera6mo ago

>Nim unfortunately has a toxic Dictator at the top, and his subordinates defend his behaviours. While this continues nobody should take Nim seriously.

I can mention just exactly the same pattern with one widespreaded OS that anyone is taking seriously.

Why do you think that "welcoming" is a must for successful IT projeсt?

austinjpOP6mo ago

Do you think aggression is a must for any successful project? Or can you entertain the possibility that projects might progress even further and faster without it?

You point to Linux but assume that Linus' infamous foul behaviour has been beneficial. This is a very basic confusion of correlation and causation.

You suggest that being "welcoming" is antithetical to "success" without defining "success".

Also, note what the "B" stands for in BDFL.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse