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0 pointsceejayoz6mo ago0 comments

> But if I just go home and hand my kid the pack of menthols, all bets are off. That's not the store clerks problem, he can't and won't get in trouble for that.

But it is society's problem, and within society's capacity to attempt to manage.

https://www.childline.org.uk/info-advice/you-your-body/drugs... says it's illegal to give a child cigarettes, and the cops can confiscate them if you're 16 or below.

> The law can't stop parents from being stupid.

Sure, but reality also often means smart, caring parents still can't stop kids from... being kids. I've lived in places where half a dozen public wifi hotspots were available; even if I didn't, chances are I'd have to let my kids on wifi for homework, on computers I don't have admin rights to because they come from the school.

They can't go sign up for a new internet plan, but that's hardly required.

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array_key_first6mo ago

> But it is society's problem, and within society's capacity to attempt to manage.

Sure, to an extent, but not really: we give parents a lot of freedom here.

> Sure, but reality also often means smart, caring parents still can't stop kids from... being kids. I've lived in places where half a dozen public wifi hotspots were available; even if I didn't, chances are I'd have to let my kids on wifi for homework, on computers I don't have admin rights to because they come from the school.

Okay, then lock down those networks. We don't need to lockdown the Internet as a whole.

In reality, most of those networks already are locked down.

Try searching up porn on, say, hotel wifi, it won't work.

We already have the solution.

ceejayozOP6mo ago

> Try searching up porn on, say, hotel wifi, it won't work.

I… very much doubt that.

array_key_first6mo ago

What? Why are you doubting that?

I can't even search for porn on cellular networks and I'm in the US.

Hotels, Starbucks, my job, the library - they all block porn. The idea that kids just have free access to a wild internet is legitimately made up. Schools block that stuff too - universities, even.

As I've said, this solution is not solving this problem because this problem legitimately does not exist. It's solving a different problem. What that problem is, is for you to find out.

ceejayozOP6mo ago

My cellular network (Google Fi / T-Mobile), as far as I can tell, has zero content blocking. Hotels used to officially put porn on the TVs via pay per view. I'm very skeptical that they widely block it.

I have high-school aged kids; they all trade techniques for getting precisely that "free access to a wild internet". It's a game of whack a mole, and school IT administrators are on the losing side.

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array_key_first6mo ago

> But it is society's problem, and within society's capacity to attempt to manage.

Sure, to an extent, but not really: we give parents a lot of freedom here.

Okay, then lock down those networks. We don't need to lockdown the Internet as a whole.

In reality, most of those networks already are locked down.

Try searching up porn on, say, hotel wifi, it won't work.

We already have the solution.

ceejayozOP6mo ago

> Try searching up porn on, say, hotel wifi, it won't work.

I… very much doubt that.

array_key_first6mo ago

What? Why are you doubting that?

I can't even search for porn on cellular networks and I'm in the US.

Hotels, Starbucks, my job, the library - they all block porn. The idea that kids just have free access to a wild internet is legitimately made up. Schools block that stuff too - universities, even.

As I've said, this solution is not solving this problem because this problem legitimately does not exist. It's solving a different problem. What that problem is, is for you to find out.

ceejayozOP6mo ago

I have high-school aged kids; they all trade techniques for getting precisely that "free access to a wild internet". It's a game of whack a mole, and school IT administrators are on the losing side.

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