I stand corrected, the Leaf figure was wrong. Nevertheless, Toyota is very profitable despite (or because?) it does not sell a significant number of EVs. Margins on EVs are currently extremely low or even negative, and that is hurting EV manufaturers more than ICE manufacturers.

Is the hating Tesla tantrum over?

That being said, you can’t really compare the sales of all of Teslas to the sales of one specific form factor/model with any kind of seriousness. Nor do I think it’s a fair comparison to compare Tesla that has parted on various hype patterns over the years to tap the zealots into even becoming their free advertisement and marketing departments not unlike how Apple fanboy cult people at least used to be. Toyota is a mature, reasonable enterprise whose sales are orders of magnitude larger than Tesla’s and there are many people’s lives dependent on being reasonable when shifting things, not “disrupt” in a typical tech bro narcissistic way.

For context Tesla has roughly 2 million sales with 125,000 employees, Toyota has 11 million sales with 385,000 employees. I assume I don’t need to do the math for you.

And that’s without going into the various battery issues and the now conflicting electricity interests between EV and AI.