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0 pointsswiftcoder6mo ago0 comments

> Maybe because it(Apple) is slow to adopt standards

I think this is an interesting bit of propaganda - they are historically not all that slow to adopt actual standards.

What they often are is unwilling to adopt Google's pre-standardisation extensions (things like WebUSB, which have never been adopted as standards).

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adrr6mo ago

WebGPL, WebRTC, Gamepad API, WebASM etc Years behind Gecko and Chromium. Don't get me started on codec support with Safari. Webkit is the new IE.

swiftcoderOP6mo ago

WebGPU not yet a W3C standard (it's at the previous step, as a "candidate recommendation"). Apple's WebGPU implementation went live before Firefox's implementation.

WebRTC went live in Safari the same year that the non-draft version went live in Chrome (Chrome supported the pre-standard webkit-prefixed version for some years before).

Similarly, Safari added support for WASM the same year that WASM was standardised (once again, Chrome supported a pre-standard version ahead of standardisation).

nwienert6mo ago

Yea the funny thing is that the real lie is that Safari is behind, that hasn’t been true for many years now.

The further irony is calling it the “new IE” when in fact it’s Chrome that is far more similar to the IE of old, at least in terms of the dirty tricks - dominant market share, uses it to push non-standards, stuffs in user hostile features to the brim, and spies on you incessantly. The only difference is it’s not terrible at performance.

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