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0 pointsfkyoureadthedoc6mo ago0 comments

by pointing your phone at it

by screenshotting it and copying the text out of the screenshot

by putting a screenshot itself into chatgpt

I'm curious what real world scenario you've imagined yourself in with a kanji button that you don't understand within the rest of a website in kanji that you do understand, but don't know how to type kanji?

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klausa6mo ago

Would you say any of these are "not that onerous" compared to copying the character?

The argument here isn't that it's _impossible_ to do that with copying disabled, it's that it's _more annoying_.

By providing a list of _more annoying_ ways to do something, you're reinforcing the argument, not refuting it.

fkyoureadthedocOP6mo ago

yes it's absolutely just as easy to screenshot something to my clipboard and paste it, as to try and select text from a button without clicking it.

yes it's absolutely just as easy to point my phone's translate app at the button.

any more questions?

klausa6mo ago

We seem to have very different concepts of either what is "easy" or fine motor skills.

I also find it rather difficult to point my phone at itself when trying to translate a word it's currently displaying; but maybe that's also a skill issue.

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Arainach6mo ago

One involves clicking just before the button and dragging to just after the button (or vice versa).

The other involves opening a screenshot tool, selecting a rectangle, going to a website (that I might have to pay for?), pasting the image, waiting some seconds to cause global warming, getting some text back, clicking just after that text to just before that text.

How is that a similar level of effort?

The first I could walk someone who had never used a computer through over the phone in 1995. The second I wouldn't want to walk some of my coworkers through today.

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0 pointsfkyoureadthedoc6mo ago0 comments

by pointing your phone at it

by screenshotting it and copying the text out of the screenshot

by putting a screenshot itself into chatgpt

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klausa6mo ago

Would you say any of these are "not that onerous" compared to copying the character?

The argument here isn't that it's _impossible_ to do that with copying disabled, it's that it's _more annoying_.

By providing a list of _more annoying_ ways to do something, you're reinforcing the argument, not refuting it.

fkyoureadthedocOP6mo ago

yes it's absolutely just as easy to screenshot something to my clipboard and paste it, as to try and select text from a button without clicking it.

yes it's absolutely just as easy to point my phone's translate app at the button.

any more questions?

klausa6mo ago

We seem to have very different concepts of either what is "easy" or fine motor skills.

I also find it rather difficult to point my phone at itself when trying to translate a word it's currently displaying; but maybe that's also a skill issue.

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Arainach6mo ago

One involves clicking just before the button and dragging to just after the button (or vice versa).

How is that a similar level of effort?

The first I could walk someone who had never used a computer through over the phone in 1995. The second I wouldn't want to walk some of my coworkers through today.

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