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0 pointspixl976mo ago0 comments

>is actually a net positive result for those disciplines.

This is an argument based in Luddism.

Looms where not a net positive for the craftsman that were making fabrics at the time.

With that said, looms where not the killing blow, instead an economic system that lead them to starve in the streets was.

There are going to be a million other things that move the economics away from scarcity and take away the profitability. The question is, are we going to hold on to economic systems that don't work under that regime.

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_DeadFred_6mo ago

Yes, being against a society without artists is totally a luddite argument. Being against AI entropy stopping societal progress, stagnating culture at 2025 when humans started stopping contributing to the training set is a luddite argument. Please stop, you are not responding in good faith.

Saying 'I think society should have artists' is not Luddism.

pixl97OP6mo ago

Eh, you say I'm not responding in good faith, and yet that's exactly what I'd accuse you of doing.

For example take this line of mine

>The question is, are we going to hold on to economic systems that don't work under that regime

Currently artistry requires artists get paid somehow in our current system. That means instead of making the art they want, they have to make art that's economically useful to a paying customer. And yet for some reason you don't consider that part of a stagnating culture.

iamacyborg6mo ago

> There are going to be a million other things that move the economics away from scarcity and take away the profitability.

What we’re really talking about here is the consolidated of power under a few tech elites. Saying it’s a luddite argument is a red herring.

ragequittah6mo ago

A whole lot of what I use every day especially for images and audio is open source. The open source AI video is getting pretty good these days as well. Better than the sora that I pay for anyways. Granted not nearly as good as veo3 yet.

So long as Nvidia doesn't nerf their consumer cards and we keep getting more and more vram I can see open source competing.

iamacyborg6mo ago

I’m yet to see these models produce anything actually good yet, paid or otherwise. On the bright side the movie industry seems to have actually been smart and still makes extensive use of unions which should help protect actual artists.

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0 pointspixl976mo ago0 comments

>is actually a net positive result for those disciplines.

This is an argument based in Luddism.

Looms where not a net positive for the craftsman that were making fabrics at the time.

With that said, looms where not the killing blow, instead an economic system that lead them to starve in the streets was.

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_DeadFred_6mo ago

Saying 'I think society should have artists' is not Luddism.

pixl97OP6mo ago

Eh, you say I'm not responding in good faith, and yet that's exactly what I'd accuse you of doing.

For example take this line of mine

>The question is, are we going to hold on to economic systems that don't work under that regime

iamacyborg6mo ago

> There are going to be a million other things that move the economics away from scarcity and take away the profitability.

What we’re really talking about here is the consolidated of power under a few tech elites. Saying it’s a luddite argument is a red herring.

ragequittah6mo ago

So long as Nvidia doesn't nerf their consumer cards and we keep getting more and more vram I can see open source competing.

iamacyborg6mo ago

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