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0 pointsalephnerd9mo ago0 comments

> That does not seem like nearly enough money

Because that's not the reason (Israel primarily imports weaponry and munitions from the US and India [0]).

The issue is the other way around. A significant portion of Germany's ground AD and defensive systems are sourced from Israel- most notably the Arrow 3 missile shield [1] deal that recently went through. Germany is heavily dependent on Israeli cybersecurity companies as well [2]. Germany is also subsidizing Arrow 3 sales to Ukraine [3].

Protecting your nations citizens always trumps morality, and in Germany's case, it's become even more critical after what happened in Poland this week.

[0] - https://oec.world/en/visualize/tree_map/hs17/import/isr/show...

[1] - https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2025/06/09/israel-...

[2] - https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/germany-s...

[3] - https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/israel-sells-missiles-to-ge...

0 pointsalephnerd9mo ago0 comments

> That does not seem like nearly enough money

Because that's not the reason (Israel primarily imports weaponry and munitions from the US and India [0]).

Protecting your nations citizens always trumps morality, and in Germany's case, it's become even more critical after what happened in Poland this week.

[0] - https://oec.world/en/visualize/tree_map/hs17/import/isr/show...

[1] - https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2025/06/09/israel-...

[2] - https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/germany-s...

[3] - https://www.wsj.com/world/europe/israel-sells-missiles-to-ge...

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parthdesai9mo ago· 2 in thread

Yeah, but Europeans countries never miss a chance to lecture other countries about morality.

alephnerdOP9mo ago

Politicians will always politick, but they do not tend to be the ones who make policy in a parliamentary system like Germany of Ireland.

Ireland basically has no army, and is entirely dependent on the UK for it's defense. As such, their politicans are free to say whatever (as long as it is not against the UK) because it's not going to come back and bite them in the behind. That said, that's now changing as the UK is trying to renegotiate the deal [0][1]

[0] - https://www.thejournal.ie/british-ireland-defence-agreement-...

[1] - https://www.irishpost.com/news/britain-and-ireland-to-renew-...

donalhunt9mo ago

The Irish strategy is to make the pubs too attractive for any attacker to bother with armed conflict. ;)

The Irish position should not be underestimated. It tends to be a bellweather for what others will align with in the future. Ireland tends to use it's soft power very effectively at the global table.

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