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0 pointsanthk7mo ago0 comments

RMS hates Common Lisp because it's a bit bloated (tons) and the closes to GNU Emacs written in CL it's Lem and it feels far slower than Emacs.

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Ironically, the GNU system now needs hundreds of megabytes of installation just to compile C.

anthkOP7mo ago

The bloat is not about the size (sbcl and ecl can be pretty slim for what they do), it's the spec.

To write down the full spec, you have to document everything in those hundreds of megabytes. That's going to run for thousands of pages.

If your spec is small but you have hundreds of megabytes of bloat, it means you're not even remotely documenting everything.

Bloated? Sure. But slower than emacs? Strong disagreement here.

I find Lem a lot snappier than emacs.

anthkOP7mo ago

Not on my n270 Atom, even under SBCL.

Huh I wonder if it’s an Atom thing

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Ironically, the GNU system now needs hundreds of megabytes of installation just to compile C.

anthkOP7mo ago

The bloat is not about the size (sbcl and ecl can be pretty slim for what they do), it's the spec.

To write down the full spec, you have to document everything in those hundreds of megabytes. That's going to run for thousands of pages.

If your spec is small but you have hundreds of megabytes of bloat, it means you're not even remotely documenting everything.

Bloated? Sure. But slower than emacs? Strong disagreement here.

I find Lem a lot snappier than emacs.

anthkOP7mo ago

Not on my n270 Atom, even under SBCL.

Huh I wonder if it’s an Atom thing

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse