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0 pointsanilgulecha7mo ago0 comments

A chicken and egg problem is highly unlikely. Here's a few probable situations:

1) A fdroid equivalent pops up, which them becomes a collection of fantastic open source apps, and soon develops a strong user base.

2) Google launches play store for iPhone, which will on day 1 get millions of users.

3) Meta launches metaStore, which so the only way to get Facebook, threads, Instagram and WhatsApp. This becomes the fastest growing store in a matter of a week.

One may personally not like this world - but imo it's a better world than the one we have - personally for (1) to exist.

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qwytw7mo ago

> 3) Meta launches metaStore, which so the only way to get Facebook, threads, Instagram and WhatsApp. This becomes the fastest growing store in a matter of a week.

Why? They don't do this on Android.

At then end of the day the number of active users would fall if they do this. That's unavoidable. So what incentives do they have to not distribute on the App Store? It's not like (unlike in Epic's case) Apple is requiring Facebook to hand over 30% of its revenue.

fdroid is of course great. Extremely niche and not that significant, though.

> Google launches play store for iPhone, which will on day 1 get millions of users.

Amazon tried that on Android. Of course I would expect Google to do much better but that doesn't mean a lot.

jen207mo ago

> Why? They don't do this on Android.

So they can fuck their users in ways not currently permitted.

close047mo ago

On #3, Meta could have done it for Android and I don't think they did. Actually if Android is a god estimation of how it looks like with 3rd party stores, it won't be super disruptive.

Unless the iOS market is so lucrative it will garner far more interest.

spect887mo ago

> Actually if Android is a god estimation of how it looks like with 3rd party stores, it won't be super disruptive.

Google Play has fewer restrictions though. Apple doesn't even allow alternative browser engines. Until last year they didn't allow any emulators.

JumpCrisscross7mo ago

> Meta launches metaStore, which so the only way to get Facebook, threads, Instagram and WhatsApp

Would note the trade off: this store will be a bastion of tracking, possibly with Meta requiring its bugs be installed for inclusion.

anilgulechaOP7mo ago

Highly probable.

This will rightly push Apple in the right direction - to bring the right OS controls at the operating system level / store API level, and not leave things up to apps. This is a better world, despite short term issues with metaStore.

JumpCrisscross7mo ago

> bring the right OS controls at the operating system level / store API level, and not leave things up to apps

This will almost certainly be litigated. We also haven’t broached national laws mandating a government-controlled App Store. (Would expect this to emerge in right-wing Europe or India first.)

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0 pointsanilgulecha7mo ago0 comments

A chicken and egg problem is highly unlikely. Here's a few probable situations:

1) A fdroid equivalent pops up, which them becomes a collection of fantastic open source apps, and soon develops a strong user base.

2) Google launches play store for iPhone, which will on day 1 get millions of users.

3) Meta launches metaStore, which so the only way to get Facebook, threads, Instagram and WhatsApp. This becomes the fastest growing store in a matter of a week.

One may personally not like this world - but imo it's a better world than the one we have - personally for (1) to exist.

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qwytw7mo ago

> 3) Meta launches metaStore, which so the only way to get Facebook, threads, Instagram and WhatsApp. This becomes the fastest growing store in a matter of a week.

Why? They don't do this on Android.

fdroid is of course great. Extremely niche and not that significant, though.

> Google launches play store for iPhone, which will on day 1 get millions of users.

Amazon tried that on Android. Of course I would expect Google to do much better but that doesn't mean a lot.

jen207mo ago

> Why? They don't do this on Android.

So they can fuck their users in ways not currently permitted.

close047mo ago

On #3, Meta could have done it for Android and I don't think they did. Actually if Android is a god estimation of how it looks like with 3rd party stores, it won't be super disruptive.

Unless the iOS market is so lucrative it will garner far more interest.

spect887mo ago

> Actually if Android is a god estimation of how it looks like with 3rd party stores, it won't be super disruptive.

Google Play has fewer restrictions though. Apple doesn't even allow alternative browser engines. Until last year they didn't allow any emulators.

JumpCrisscross7mo ago

> Meta launches metaStore, which so the only way to get Facebook, threads, Instagram and WhatsApp

Would note the trade off: this store will be a bastion of tracking, possibly with Meta requiring its bugs be installed for inclusion.

anilgulechaOP7mo ago

Highly probable.

JumpCrisscross7mo ago

> bring the right OS controls at the operating system level / store API level, and not leave things up to apps

This will almost certainly be litigated. We also haven’t broached national laws mandating a government-controlled App Store. (Would expect this to emerge in right-wing Europe or India first.)

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