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0 pointsbluGill10mo ago0 comments

The freight operators say they obey law. I've talk to their drivers (on my last trip one was taking amtrak) who tell about hours waiting for a late amtrak.

i don't know who is right but I don't trust anyone to tell the full truth.

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stonogo10mo ago· 3 in thread

They do obey the law: they're required to pull onto a siding to allow Amtrak to stay on time. So the operators ensure the train is too long for any of the sidings, which fits them into an escape clause. Any cargo train stuck waiting for Amtrak simply isn't fully stacked yet.

Closing that loophole is what the government is dragging its feet about.

FridayoLeary10mo ago

From wikipedia

> United States – BNSF Railway and Union Pacific Railroad (UP) regularly operate intermodal container trains exceeding 5,000 metres (16,500 ft) in length on main lines in the western United States. On the UP, these trains can stretch to over 6,100 metres (20,000 ft) with 5 locomotives and 280 well cars.

Those are incredible figures. It would almost be a shame to ban such amazing monuments to engineering. Not to mention that it's probably the most efficent and enviromentally friendly way to do things.

hypercube3310mo ago

It's not due to the logistics of rail labor and a bunch of other things. I forget the math but smaller trains can run more often without sitting for hours and take advantage of fuel and labor better.

the podcast well there's your problem covered it in deep detail

Wowfunhappy10mo ago

IMO the freight companies should be able to pay to build longer sidings if they need them, but they should have to pay for it.

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bobthepanda10mo ago· 2 in thread

it's possible that freight trains are waiting for an Amtrak that was itself, earlier delayed by freight trains and became late. And given that equipment on a route will become the return journey this could cascade out of control.

Amtraks are never in charge of dispatching on routes they don't own, and there's a very clear correlation between on time performance and percentage of the route they do own.

bluGillOP10mo ago

Possible, but all I ever see is finger pointing and I don't trust either side to be telling the full truth.

lesuorac10mo ago

Irks me to no end. Because both sides have the data but just don't share it.

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