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0 pointsVektorceraptor8mo ago0 comments

So what about the authors and creators of the works? They did it for free?

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Information and well-crafted sentences are available on the Language Tree, easily plucked by anyone at zero cost. It's greedy for those so-called novelists and subject matter experts to expect a living wage.

"Information wants to be free," which means that any cost of producing that information can be abstracted away due to ideological inconvenience.

VektorceraptorOP8mo ago

Then show me the easily available "information on the langauge tree" to solve the unsolved problems in science. Btw. books are not mere information, they are also products of effort and sacrifice and intentions. They are also embedded in an economic system of paper, books, ink, transport and what not producers.

So you are either poor or too lazy to buy a book from the store. But this doesn't justify mind theft or it's distribution.

AIPedant8mo ago

My comment was sarcastic.

slt20218mo ago

they already work almost for free, since all the money goes to the publisher and retailer.

out of $20 book, the authors earn about $1 - $1.5, for e-books its about $1.7 - $2

The value from book sales goes to retailer and publisher: two large corporations, and in case of amazon - a single big corporation

so please cry me a river about amazon's lost profits earned at the back of the book authors

Aerroon8mo ago

Governments. You forgot governments. They take the bulk of the money, especially in Europe.

~25% VAT and then the publishers and retailers take their cut. The government takes another 40% in income and payroll taxes from that. The leftovers are what the author gets.

Buying from yourself is probably the biggest markup you can get.

slt20218mo ago

yes, if you add VAT and remove taxes from authors' incomes, it becomes even more laughable.

its really might be better to publish for free and create a buy me a coffee

VektorceraptorOP8mo ago

This is a problem of publishers and retailers, and not a justification for distribution of mind theft.

slt20218mo ago

yes, exactly, annas-archive is the modern robin-hood that frees up the knowledge.

it is not a theft, because people using annas-archive were not going to buy a book in the first place and publishers incomes didnt drop due to annas-archive

akkad338mo ago

Then what's the economic interest for writing a book

kelnos8mo ago

Very little. Aside from high-profile/best-selling authors who do make a decent amount of money, the vast majority of writers do it because they love doing it, not because they expect to become rich.

akkad338mo ago

Now you can publish independently through Kindle or through learnpub. Would that not cut out the intermediary fees?

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AIPedant8mo ago

"Information wants to be free," which means that any cost of producing that information can be abstracted away due to ideological inconvenience.

VektorceraptorOP8mo ago

So you are either poor or too lazy to buy a book from the store. But this doesn't justify mind theft or it's distribution.

AIPedant8mo ago

My comment was sarcastic.

slt20218mo ago

they already work almost for free, since all the money goes to the publisher and retailer.

out of $20 book, the authors earn about $1 - $1.5, for e-books its about $1.7 - $2

The value from book sales goes to retailer and publisher: two large corporations, and in case of amazon - a single big corporation

so please cry me a river about amazon's lost profits earned at the back of the book authors

Aerroon8mo ago

Governments. You forgot governments. They take the bulk of the money, especially in Europe.

~25% VAT and then the publishers and retailers take their cut. The government takes another 40% in income and payroll taxes from that. The leftovers are what the author gets.

Buying from yourself is probably the biggest markup you can get.

slt20218mo ago

yes, if you add VAT and remove taxes from authors' incomes, it becomes even more laughable.

its really might be better to publish for free and create a buy me a coffee

VektorceraptorOP8mo ago

This is a problem of publishers and retailers, and not a justification for distribution of mind theft.

slt20218mo ago

yes, exactly, annas-archive is the modern robin-hood that frees up the knowledge.

it is not a theft, because people using annas-archive were not going to buy a book in the first place and publishers incomes didnt drop due to annas-archive

akkad338mo ago

Then what's the economic interest for writing a book

kelnos8mo ago

Very little. Aside from high-profile/best-selling authors who do make a decent amount of money, the vast majority of writers do it because they love doing it, not because they expect to become rich.

akkad338mo ago

Now you can publish independently through Kindle or through learnpub. Would that not cut out the intermediary fees?

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