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0 pointslogicchains7mo ago0 comments

>releasing providers from any liability if they fuck up and lose all my money via engineering incompetence

If someone fucks up and downloads some shady wallet app that steals their coins, they're the one at fault. How about trying to take some personal responsibility, instead of trying to get the full force of government to stop other people keeping custody of their own coins, just to protect yourself from potentially making a bad decision and installing a dodgy app? Edited to remove a personal attack

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sapphicsnail7mo ago

This sounds a bit like arguing that doctors shouldn't be liable for harming a patient. If you make a shady app you should be held responsible for losing your customers' money.

Edit: I use grapheneos and I don't agree with google gate-keeping what people put on their phone. I just thinks crypto companies, like any company, should be held accountable for their actions.

logicchainsOP7mo ago

>This sounds a bit like arguing that doctors shouldn't be liable for harming a patient. If you make a shady app you should be held responsible for losing your customers' money.

That's not what the issue is; the issue is that Play Store would ban _any_ app allowing coin self-custody, even if the app isn't any way shady.

sapphicsnail7mo ago

I'm not responding to the article I'm responding to this in the parent comment

> If someone fucks up and downloads some shady wallet app that steals their coins, they're the one at fault.

I don't agree with what google is doing. I think we should be able to download whatever we want on our phones. I think it's not a good take that the customer instead of the company, is the one that should be held responsible if a company fucks up.

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blokey7mo ago

Please don’t make such personal attacks, it doesn’t add to the conversation.

If you want to have a wallet app that is not backed by a company with a banking license, then could you not side load it?

We have basic minimum standards in our food safety, why not have them in our financial services?

You, as an expert in the field still can download any application you wish, but others that may not be an expert, are given some protection from potentially AI Slop apps that they wouldn’t understand are dangerous.

logicchainsOP7mo ago

>If you want to have a wallet app that is not backed by a company with a banking license, then could you not side load it?

If you haven't noticed, there's a concerted push to make side-loading harder and harder. Sure it's an option for now, but it's quite possible we're only a few years away from Google going the Apple route and the vast majority of mobile devices not supporting installing unapproved software.

kube-system7mo ago

Fraud and theft is illegal basically everywhere, and the people who commit those crimes are at fault for them. Stealing money is the fault of the person who steals the money.

lupusreal7mo ago

It's kind of like when you fuck up and hire the wrong plumber and he tells his burglar friend about your huge TV and they break in to steal it a week later. That's your own fault, stop trying to get the government involved! Sheesh, I just don't understand why simple libertarian principles like this get people confused.

logicchainsOP7mo ago

>It's kind of like when you fuck up and hire the wrong plumber and he tells his burglar friend about your huge TV and they break in to steal it a week later. That's your own fault, stop trying to get the government involved! Sheesh, I just don't understand why simple libertarian principles like this get people confused.

That's a great example because the venue where the plumber posted his advertisement would not be liable for the plumber's actions.

wizzwizz47mo ago

Not even if they knew, or should reasonably have known, that the plumber was doing this?

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sapphicsnail7mo ago

This sounds a bit like arguing that doctors shouldn't be liable for harming a patient. If you make a shady app you should be held responsible for losing your customers' money.

Edit: I use grapheneos and I don't agree with google gate-keeping what people put on their phone. I just thinks crypto companies, like any company, should be held accountable for their actions.

logicchainsOP7mo ago

>This sounds a bit like arguing that doctors shouldn't be liable for harming a patient. If you make a shady app you should be held responsible for losing your customers' money.

That's not what the issue is; the issue is that Play Store would ban _any_ app allowing coin self-custody, even if the app isn't any way shady.

sapphicsnail7mo ago

I'm not responding to the article I'm responding to this in the parent comment

> If someone fucks up and downloads some shady wallet app that steals their coins, they're the one at fault.

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blokey7mo ago

Please don’t make such personal attacks, it doesn’t add to the conversation.

If you want to have a wallet app that is not backed by a company with a banking license, then could you not side load it?

We have basic minimum standards in our food safety, why not have them in our financial services?

logicchainsOP7mo ago

>If you want to have a wallet app that is not backed by a company with a banking license, then could you not side load it?

kube-system7mo ago

Fraud and theft is illegal basically everywhere, and the people who commit those crimes are at fault for them. Stealing money is the fault of the person who steals the money.

lupusreal7mo ago

logicchainsOP7mo ago

That's a great example because the venue where the plumber posted his advertisement would not be liable for the plumber's actions.

wizzwizz47mo ago

Not even if they knew, or should reasonably have known, that the plumber was doing this?

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