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0 pointsm4rtink10mo ago0 comments

This was pretty much compounded in the communist era - it was the state doing the environmental destruction & it was doing it for the most holly purpose of PROGRESS and HEAVY INDUSTRY.

So if you wanted to point out we are all gonna get poisoned to death and worse, you would not only be saying the state is wrong (impossible!) but that attacking its most its most important endeavors (reactionary provocateur, shoot on sight!!).

Like, in the capitalist countries you could at least say all the mercury in the fish is causing spike in birth defects without ending up in gulag.

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titzer10mo ago

> in the capitalist countries

Again, you mean the countries that didn't have authoritarian, unaccountable governments, where citizens have not only a history of free expression, but they constitutionally guaranteed rights. Whereas in the communist regimes they universally have been repressive, corrupt, brutal, stupid, and usually self-defeating.

> it was doing it for the most holly purpose of PROGRESS and HEAVY INDUSTRY.

Oh yeah, it was fucked. But the globalist capitalist society of today that can't survive without overconsumption and perpetual exponential growth isn't a whole lot better. It promises everyone that their greed is good and that billionaires are saints. For the time being we're awash in widgets and titillating entertainment, but dwindling resources and shocks to the biosphere will have their consequences. At least the communist regimes have had the good grace to fall apart once in a while.

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