Of course that goes against the spirit of FOSS, but there's a bit more nuance there than simply saying "snaps are proprietary".
Containers, popular as they may be on servers, can only add breakage and overhead to desktops, especially for an established and already much better organized system like Debian's apt. There just haven't been any new desktop apps for way over a decade that would warrant yet another level of indirection.
For example, with flatpak you select a base runtime for your package that contains mostly system-agnostic libraries. With snap, you specify an Ubuntu version as a base runtime and additional dependencies that are Ubuntu packages.
The end result should be similar to FlatPak where you have practically no dependencies as it should package almost everything.
I can't seem to find it. Any pointers would be helpful, so at least I can know the latest state of this thing.
I didn't say "the snap format".
The server isn't, and the client is hostile to using an alternative server. Snaps are a solution, and picking out one piece is deceptive.
The topic is not whether snaps are avoidable or not, but the Ubuntu is going downhill. And snaps are purported to be part of that downhill, which would be Ubuntu's NIH syndrome. As far as I know, Ubuntu's only successful development is Ubuntu itself - the other projects have all failed over the years, and snap, while ongoing, is not winning any popularity contests either.
But in practice even for flatpak the only realistic place you can publish your flatpak if you want any traction at all would be flathub, so both formats have only one store right now. But flatpak allows a custom store while for some strange reason Canonical decided not to allow snap that freedom.
Red Hat do the same. They reinvented the wheel on multiple occasions (systemd and it's whole ecosystem like systemd-resolved and timed and the whole kitchen sink; podman, buildah, dnf, etc etc.)
They just have more success on getting their NIH babies accepted as the standard by everyone else. Canonical just fail at that (often for good reasons, Unity was downright crap for some time) and abandon stuff, which doesn't help their future causes.
Using apt to install some packages installs snap plumbing and downloads the package as a snap automatically. You don't have to install it manually.
There's no malicious intent though, it's made to "impose a positive pressure on the snap team to produce better work and keep their quality high" (paraphrased, but this was the official answer).
Debian has been a safe haven since.
Packaged as: https://github.com/justinclift/snapd-empty/releases/download...
It's just an empty package that tells the system snap is installed, to stop the broken dependency chains you otherwise get from force uninstalling snap.
It's been working fine on a handful of Ubuntu 24.04 systems I've been handed and can't change the OS of, for about half a year now.
Then you add e.g. the mozilla PPA such that its firefox package gets installed instead.
