How we shifted 6Wunderkinder to Wunderlist, again (opens in new tab)

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34 pointsCReber13y ago25 comments

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Pretty disappointed as I had my whole family switch to Wunderkit, and all of us get on board using it.

However... after a few months most of us stopped - it just wasn't clicking like I hoped it would. I know some of my family members still use it personally with their significant others tho, so they'll be bummed by this news.

This sort of thing makes me very wary of choosing to use something to manage things as important as Wunderkit was setup for - especially when they're made 'free'. Right now I use Trello in my work, and even tho they constantly say 'It'll all be OKAY, this will be around a long time' - this makes me weary once more.

CReberOP13y ago

Wunderkit will remain stable for some time yet. Once Wunderlist 2 is ready we will be offering an export tool, so that your friends and family will be able to transfer their data directly from Wunderkit to Wunderlist 2.

shawnc13y ago

Thanks for the reply Christian. I'll be sure to let them know if that fact. I respect the nature of the decision, and i know it was certainly not an easy one. You've handled it very well, and the communication around that fact very well.

webjunkie13y ago

"more than 20 engineers" on a to-do list app? Isn't that quite an overhead? I mean 37signals have 9 developers and they successfully run several products (even with their easy-going lifestyle).

CReberOP13y ago

We focus on building a solid product with a consistent experience for several platforms - Wunderlist 2 will launch with native clients on Web, iOS, Android, Mac and Windows. To build a high quality product on every platform, I think you need at least 2 developers for each platform. If you are interested this is how we split our team:

3 iOS Developers

3 Android Developers

2 Mac Developers

2 Windows Developers

5 Web Developers (they not only build the web app)

5 Backend Developers

1 Sysadmin

stevenwei13y ago

Wow, that's a pretty serious burn rate.

Isn't Wunderlist/Wunderkit essentially a free todo-list app? How are you planning to monetize into a sustainable business?

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boundlessdreamz13y ago

Why are there both web developers and backend developers? By web developers did you mean frontend developers(primarily JS) ?

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jscoder13y ago

Will you also release Wunderlist 2 for Linux? :)

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erroca13y ago

Remember, they are building a backend and clients for pretty much every platform available, I would say 20 engineers is barely enough to accomplish such a task in a timely manner. 37signal makes their apps available on web only.

sync13y ago

Their clients are really just thin wrappers around their website, e.g. UIWebView for iOS. Not sure how that takes three iOS developers.

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shawnc13y ago

Pretty disappointed as I had my whole family switch to Wunderkit, and all of us get on board using it.

CReberOP13y ago

shawnc13y ago

webjunkie13y ago

"more than 20 engineers" on a to-do list app? Isn't that quite an overhead? I mean 37signals have 9 developers and they successfully run several products (even with their easy-going lifestyle).

CReberOP13y ago

3 iOS Developers

3 Android Developers

2 Mac Developers

2 Windows Developers

5 Web Developers (they not only build the web app)

5 Backend Developers

1 Sysadmin

stevenwei13y ago

Wow, that's a pretty serious burn rate.

Isn't Wunderlist/Wunderkit essentially a free todo-list app? How are you planning to monetize into a sustainable business?

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