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0 pointsjs87mo ago0 comments

No ground invasion is needed, not even serious economic sanctions for non-compliance. Just a simple phone call from American president, that Israelis are now free to fend themselves from "hostile Arabs", without US military aid (there's a precedent btw). After all, it's Israel's own responsibility to protect human rights, isn't it?

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hersko7mo ago

You think Israel would just collapse if the US stopped supporting them?

lostlogin7mo ago

Who would support Israel? Who’s aircraft carriers would stand by?

I-M-S7mo ago

The official doctrine of Israel is to nuke the whole region [1] rather than accept anything similar to what has been proposed above.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

halflife7mo ago

Research Israel’s independence war where Czechoslovakia contributed arms. It wasn’t until Nixon that Israel had American support.

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JumpCrisscross7mo ago

> Who would support Israel?

If the United States launched a land war on Israel and Palestine, Russia and China. It would be an opportunity to bog down the United States in the Middle East for another generation.

ImJamal7mo ago

I haven't confirmed the numbers, but I saw an estimate of 75% of Israeli military funding came from foreign aid (primarily the US) and those numbers did not include the US sitting in the Mediterranean with ships intercepting rockets.

If they had to cut down their military to 25% they would collapse from outside attacks. Israel would probably figure out the funding so it wouldn't drop by that much though.

s1artibartfast7mo ago

If you think it is important to your position, I recommend you look into confirming those numbers.

Israel is spending around 30 Billion/yr now US is currently giving them about 18 Billion/yr US historically gave them about 4 Billion/yr

US spending during the war is about 75% as much as internal spending, not 75% of the total.

If US turned off the money tap, Israel would go from winning several wars at once to having to pick its fights.

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corimaith7mo ago

Which "hostile arabs"? Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States want military cooperation with Israel to counter Iran. Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, etc are too busy with their own affairs and have no desire to fight a unnecessarily destructive war.

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hersko7mo ago

You think Israel would just collapse if the US stopped supporting them?

lostlogin7mo ago

Who would support Israel? Who’s aircraft carriers would stand by?

I-M-S7mo ago

The official doctrine of Israel is to nuke the whole region [1] rather than accept anything similar to what has been proposed above.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

halflife7mo ago

Research Israel’s independence war where Czechoslovakia contributed arms. It wasn’t until Nixon that Israel had American support.

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JumpCrisscross7mo ago

> Who would support Israel?

If the United States launched a land war on Israel and Palestine, Russia and China. It would be an opportunity to bog down the United States in the Middle East for another generation.

ImJamal7mo ago

If they had to cut down their military to 25% they would collapse from outside attacks. Israel would probably figure out the funding so it wouldn't drop by that much though.

s1artibartfast7mo ago

If you think it is important to your position, I recommend you look into confirming those numbers.

Israel is spending around 30 Billion/yr now US is currently giving them about 18 Billion/yr US historically gave them about 4 Billion/yr

US spending during the war is about 75% as much as internal spending, not 75% of the total.

If US turned off the money tap, Israel would go from winning several wars at once to having to pick its fights.

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corimaith7mo ago

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