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0 pointsImPostingOnHN8mo ago0 comments

> You are operating until a false premise that Palestinians/Hamas are some sort of children and bear no responsibility for anything at all.

Where in reality, the war could have been over in 5 minutes if they released the hostages at any time during the past 3 years. It still can be over in 5 minutes if they choose to do that. But no, they will put as many of their own people in harm's way as necessary to get to the world opinion to be what it is. And literally no one, including you, is questioning that.

Palestinians and Hamas are 2 different groups of people. Which 1 are you referring to when you say "they"? Only the Hamas can legally be punished as a result of Hamas's actions. Punishing Palestinians because you're mad at Hamas is a war crime.

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starik368mo ago

Sure, technically. But to this day, majorities support Oct 7th attack, both in Gaza and West Bank.

That's like saying in WW2, we can't attack Berlin because there are innocent Germans who don't support Nazis.

So how exactly do you propose to fight Hamas in an urban environment when it's blending in to the population that largely supports them (and only put on a uniform during propaganda events like hostage handovers)?

ImPostingOnHNOP8mo ago

> to this day, majorities support Oct 7th attack, both in Gaza and West Bank

Likewise, to this day, majorities of israelis support the israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestine.

> That's like saying in WW2, we can't attack Berlin because there are innocent Germans who don't support Nazis.

There's a difference between collateral damage and the israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestine. That said, the intentional firebombing of German civilians was arguably a war crime, so you're arguing against your point here. Indeed, the geneva conventions are partially motivated by the atrocities that occurred during WWII, with the aim of making sure they happened "never again".

> So how exactly do you propose to fight Hamas in an urban environment when it's blending in to the population that largely supports them

That's not my problem, but ethnic cleansing is obviously an illegal and wrong way to go about it. Still though, an answer to your request can be found here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44718080

starik367mo ago

> majorities of israelis support the israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestine

That is simply nonsense. Provide a link to a poll stating that. You can't.

> difference between collateral damage and the israeli ethnic cleansing of Palestine

More nonsense. You are just throwing out words. There is no ethnic cleansing. Palestinians are still there - no one is kicking them out. In fact, their population increased. And since there is no ethnic cleansing, your point is moot. What is happening is a modern war, door to door fighting - with collateral damage. The situation is grim.

> So how exactly do you propose to fight Hamas >> That's not my problem

Of course, it isn't. You just like to throw big words and feel good about yourself, while providing zero solutions to anything.

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