*edited to change “pro” to “plus”
As a pedantic note, I would say 'ration'. Things you hoard don't magically go away after some period of time.
Rationed/hoarded do imply, to me, something different about how the quantity came to be though. Rationed being given or setting aside a fixed amount, hoarded being that you stockpiled/amassed it. Saying "you hoarded your rations" (whether they will expire) does feel more on the money than "you ration your rations" from that perspective.
I hope this doesn't come off too "well aktually", I've just been thinking about how I still realize different meanings/origins of common words later in life and the odd things that trigger me to think about it differently for the first time. A recent one for me was that "whoever" has the (fairly obvious) etymology of who+ever https://www.etymonline.com/word/whoever vs something like balloon, which has a comparatively more complex history https://www.etymonline.com/word/balloon
So, back to hoarding.
One day a few of hours of prompting is fine, another you'll hit your weekly limit and you're out for seven days.
While still paying your subscription.
I can't think of any other product or service which operates on this basis - where you're charged a set fee, but the access you get varies from hour to hour entirely at the provider's whim. And if you hit a limit which is a moving target you can't even check you're locked out of the service.
It's ridiculous. Begging for a law suit, tbh.
Decided to give PRO a try when I kept getting terrible results from the $20 option.
So far it's perhaps 20% improved in complex code generation.
It still has the extremely annoying ~350 line limit in its output.
It still IGNORES EXPLICIT CONTINUOUS INSTRUCTIONS eg: do not remove existing comments.
The opaque overriding rules that - despite it begging forgiveness when it ignores instructions - are extremely frustrating!!
Often they're better at recognizing failures to stick to the rules and fixing the problems than they are at consistently following the rules in a single shot.
This does mean that often having an LLM agents so a thing works but is slower than just doing it myself. Still, I can sometimes kick off a workflow before joining a meeting, so maybe the hours I've spent playing with these tools will eventually pay for themselves in improved future productivity.
But at things I have no idea about like medicine it feels very convincing. Am I in hazard?
People don’t understand Dunning-Kruger. People are prone to biases and fallacies. Likely all LLMs are inept at objectivity.
My instructions to LLMs are always strictness, no false claims, Bayesian likelihoods on every claim. Some modes ignore the instructions voluntarily, while others stick strictly to them. In the end it doesn’t matter when they insist on 99% confidence on refuted fantasies.
Reality is probably that there’s a backlog item to implement a view, but it’s hard to prioritize over core features.
It's even harder to prioritize when the feature you pay to develop probably costs you money.
Back to the conspiracy ^^
I have zero doubt that this is working exactly as intended. We will keep all our users at 80% of what we sold them by keeping them anxious about how close they are to the limit.
The human brain is stupid and remarkably exploitable. Just a teensy little bit of information hiding can illicit strange and self-destructive behavior from people.
You aren't cut off until you're cut off, then it's over completely. That's scary, because there's no recourse. So people are going to try to avoid that as much as possible. Since they don't know how much they're using, they're naturally going to err on the side of caution - paying for more than they need.
If I sit down for dinner at an all-you-can-eat buffet, I get to decide how much I’m having for dinner. I don’t mind if they don’t let me take leftovers, as it is already understood that they mean as much as I can eat in one sitting.
If they don’t want folks to take advantage of an advertised offer, then they should change their sales pitch. It’s explicitly not gaming any system to use what you’re paying for in full. That’s your right and privilege as that’s the bill of goods you bought and were sold.
The dark pattern isn’t the usage limit. It’s the lack of information about current and remaining usage.
This isn't like a gym membership where people join aspirationally. No one's new year's resolution is "I'm going to use o3 more often."
Unless you use "free" GPT 4.1 like MS wants you (not the same as Claude, even with Beast Mode). And how long is that going to be free, because it feels like a design to simply push you to a MS product (MS>OpenAI) instead of third party.
So what happens a year from now? Paid GPT 5.1? With 4.1 being removed? If it was not for the insane prices of actual large mem GPUs and the slowness of large models, i will be using LLMs at home. Right now MS/Antropic/OpenAI are right in that zone where its not too expensive yet to go full local LLM.
Do I read this correctly? Only 100 messages per week, on the pro plan worth a few hundred buck a month?!
Per their website: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9793128-what-is-chatgpt-...
There are no usage caps on pro users (subject to some common sense terms of use).
I have a pro plan and I hammer o3–I’d guess more than a hundred a day sometimes—and have never run into limits personally
Wouldn’t shock me if something like that happened but haven’t seen evidence of it yet
I haven't yet run into this limit...
Hover on it on a desktop, it’ll show how many requests you have left.