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0 pointsclosewith8mo ago0 comments

It was always too good to last.

I assume this is the end of the viability of the fixed price options.

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> affecting less than 5% of users based on current usage patterns.

Affecting 5% of users to me sounds like it affects pretty much everyone who got some value out of the tool and is not a casual coder.

thoughtfulappco8mo ago

I dont know if running an agent 24/7 means you are "better" than casual coder. Code quality is still a thing, HITL i believe in still (not buying complete agent/mcp hype), I don't know if using more resources = extracting more value atm

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steveklabnik8mo ago

I don't think it's that simple. We'll see though, I am very curious if I'm in that 5% or not.

i_am_proteus8mo ago

We do not know if that is less than 5% of users or less than 5% of paid users?

We do know that PR teams enjoy framing things in the most favorable light possible.

steveklabnik8mo ago

We do, they're paid users. These limits are regarding the usage of the paid plans.

SatvikBeri8mo ago

It's talking about subscriptions, which implies paid users.

andix8mo ago

Let's hope that's true, and not some statistics trick.

steveklabnik8mo ago

I certainly am!

jstummbillig8mo ago

This seems to be the exact opposite?

serial_dev8mo ago

The writing is on the wall, we just need to read it. Fixed price offerings will be either gone or neutered.

jstummbillig8mo ago

Why? There are a lot of products where fixed price offerings can exist, like internet access in many parts of the world. The way that Anthropic implemented this change and how they explain it, hints that this could work very much the same: There is be a level of borderline abusers that need to be reigned in. The rest are a few power users that are subsidized by a lot of normal users.

I am not saying this is what must happen here, but I see no effort to substantiate why it could not.

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steveklabnik8mo ago

> affecting less than 5% of users based on current usage patterns.

serial_dev8mo ago

Affecting 5% of users to me sounds like it affects pretty much everyone who got some value out of the tool and is not a casual coder.

thoughtfulappco8mo ago

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steveklabnik8mo ago

I don't think it's that simple. We'll see though, I am very curious if I'm in that 5% or not.

i_am_proteus8mo ago

We do not know if that is less than 5% of users or less than 5% of paid users?

We do know that PR teams enjoy framing things in the most favorable light possible.

steveklabnik8mo ago

We do, they're paid users. These limits are regarding the usage of the paid plans.

SatvikBeri8mo ago

It's talking about subscriptions, which implies paid users.

andix8mo ago

Let's hope that's true, and not some statistics trick.

steveklabnik8mo ago

I certainly am!

jstummbillig8mo ago

This seems to be the exact opposite?

serial_dev8mo ago

The writing is on the wall, we just need to read it. Fixed price offerings will be either gone or neutered.

jstummbillig8mo ago

I am not saying this is what must happen here, but I see no effort to substantiate why it could not.

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