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0 pointscosmic_cheese8mo ago0 comments

I would love to see a cross-platform desktop UI toolkit for Swift, preferably one that’s reactive and imperative-dominant with declaritivity sprinkled in where it makes sense (all-in declarative design like SwiftUI hits too many language weak points for the time being). Swift is really quite nice to write once you get a feel for it, and as long as one is judicious about advanced feature use, it looks more familiar and less intimidating than Rust does which is great for newcomers.

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willtemperley8mo ago

Swift is coming to Android. That may improve traction. [1]

Having just ported a small library from Rust to Swift, it’s fairly clear that Rust is ridiculously fast but Swift is just so much more readable. Much easier to debug too.

Also - why would Rust only have a max-heap? In the library I ported, the authors had to reverse the algorithmic logic in the entire library for this.

Even though it’s only about half as fast as Rust, Swift performance does start to shine with concurrency.

[1] https://www.swift.org/android-workgroup/

steveklabnik8mo ago

> Also - why would Rust only have a max-heap? In the library I ported, the authors had to reverse the algorithmic logic in the entire library for this.

All you have to do is use a small wrapper type and you get a min heap https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/collections/struct.BinaryHeap....

willtemperley8mo ago

Which shows that Rust devs care very little for ergonomics.

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willtemperley8mo ago

Swift is coming to Android. That may improve traction. [1]

Having just ported a small library from Rust to Swift, it’s fairly clear that Rust is ridiculously fast but Swift is just so much more readable. Much easier to debug too.

Also - why would Rust only have a max-heap? In the library I ported, the authors had to reverse the algorithmic logic in the entire library for this.

Even though it’s only about half as fast as Rust, Swift performance does start to shine with concurrency.

[1] https://www.swift.org/android-workgroup/

steveklabnik8mo ago

> Also - why would Rust only have a max-heap? In the library I ported, the authors had to reverse the algorithmic logic in the entire library for this.

All you have to do is use a small wrapper type and you get a min heap https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/collections/struct.BinaryHeap....

willtemperley8mo ago

Which shows that Rust devs care very little for ergonomics.

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