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0 pointsgalangalalgol8mo ago0 comments

It isn't binary in general but in this case it is. The money from mozilla corporation is close enough in quantity to the donations to make it so. Someone used the example of a medical bill and a ps5, but a better example is that you gave someone enough money to live on entirely, and the spent it on that as they said, but then took their income which could have paid for it and purchased something unnecessary. That wouldn't be ok. Furthermore one of the key pieces of research before donating to a charity is executive compensation. This level of compensation is a red flag in any non profit and means it won't be getting good ratings from the watchdog groups. That in turn hurts future donations.

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Forgeties798mo ago

I gave the PS5 example fyi. Not that it changes anything it just felt weird to not clarify that haha

>but a better example is that you gave someone enough money to live on entirely, and the spent it on that as they said, but then took their income which could have paid for it and purchased something unnecessary.

But that doesn’t really apply here, it’s not parallel to the Mozilla/Firefox situation. And if we want to arbitrarily decide that all donations go to the CEO strictly because the numbers are kind of similar, why can’t I just say “no all that money goes towards staff and operating“? Why is my assertion any less valid? The numbers being similar doesn’t tell us anything about how it’s being spent. It’s just a coincidence.

I mean that’s what this all hinges on right? That the two numbers are kind of close? I can’t really think of how that tells us where the money is going. I don’t understand how that follows.

If donations 10x tomorrow can we no longer claim the donations are going into the CEO’s pocket? Or if they cut to 1/10th? Would we be having this conversation if either was currently the case?

galangalalgolOP8mo ago

If it was the head of the foundation making that much no one would donate. It would be a matter of opportunity cost. A non profit that size would normally have a leader compensated on the level of a software developer. I'd argue the ceo of the corporation is also wildly overcompensated too, but that normally wouldn't be relevant to the decision to donate. The issue arises because of the close financial ties between the corporation and the foundation, which is enough to prevent my donations by itself, those ties though create the perception that fewer donations would increase transfers from the corporation. If that is in fact true, then the question of opportunity cost does extend to all of the corporations expenses and someone considering donating sgould absolutely consider all of those expenses and decide if they are doing good with their donation or not.

Forgeties798mo ago

> A non profit that size would normally have a leader compensated on the level of a software developer.

I hate doing the “source?” thing but this is not obviously the case to me so can you explain your reasoning here or show me a source?

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Forgeties798mo ago

I gave the PS5 example fyi. Not that it changes anything it just felt weird to not clarify that haha

I mean that’s what this all hinges on right? That the two numbers are kind of close? I can’t really think of how that tells us where the money is going. I don’t understand how that follows.

If donations 10x tomorrow can we no longer claim the donations are going into the CEO’s pocket? Or if they cut to 1/10th? Would we be having this conversation if either was currently the case?

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Forgeties798mo ago

> A non profit that size would normally have a leader compensated on the level of a software developer.

I hate doing the “source?” thing but this is not obviously the case to me so can you explain your reasoning here or show me a source?

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