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0 pointsvirgildotcodes11mo ago0 comments

Seems like the survival strategy for cursor would be to develop their own frontier coding model. Maybe they can leverage the data from their still somewhat significant lead in the space to make a solid effort.

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raincole11mo ago· 2 in thread

> to develop their own frontier coding model

Uh, the irony is that this is exactly what Windsurf tried.

bluelightning2k11mo ago

As an actual user of Windsurf model, I don't think "tried" is fair. I sometimes use it. It's not as smart as Gemini but it iterates quicker and is very well aligned with their tool calls

stogot11mo ago

Why did they fail?

libraryofbabel11mo ago· 1 in thread

I don’t think that’s a viable strategy. It is very very hard and not many people can do it. Just look at how much Meta is paying to poach the few people in the world capable of training a next gen frontier model.

lukan11mo ago

Why are there actually only a few people in the world able to do this?

The basic concept is out there.

Lots of smart people studying hard to catch up to also be poached. No shortage of those I assume.

Good trainingsdata still seems the most important to me.

(and lots of hardware)

Or does the specific training still involves lots of smart decisions all the time?

And those small or big decisions make all the difference?

bluelightning2k11mo ago

Windsurf has developed their own fron tier model. It's pretty good. It's not sota but it's very well aligned with their tool call formatting etc.

josephcooney11mo ago

interestingly windsurf have done this (I'm not sure how frontier this model is...but it's their own model) https://windsurf.com/blog/windsurf-wave-9-swe-1 but AFAIK cursor have not.

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