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0 points1024core10mo ago0 comments

US is getting sucked into a 1300-year old Shia-Sunni conflict.

Personally, I don't understand why Iran had to meddle in Palestine. When Palestine's own neighbors don't give a rat's ass for the suffering of the Palestinians, who are these mullahs sitting 1000 mi away to get involved?

After the first Gulf War itself, Iranian rulers should have seen the light and stayed tf out of the US's way (and Israel might just be the 51st state, practically speaking). Just work on improving your economy, educating your kids, building up your infrastructure and turn Iran into one of the world's top economies.

But noooo...... those idiots had to get involved in Palestine: supporting Hamas, Hezbollah, etc.... WHY? Just why?!?

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delfinom10mo ago

Because they turned Israel into their Boogeyman the same way the US tries to turn countries like China into theirs or Russia treating Ukraine as their Boogeyman. North Korea treating the US as one.

Countries run by dictators need an external enemy to paint as the cause for problems.

ngruhn10mo ago

They just want to annihilate the non-believers. If the Jews wouldn't have priority, they would probably bully the majority Sunni Palestinians themselves.

> Just work on improving your economy, educating your kids, building up your infrastructure

Who cares about all this secular nonsense. Killing Jews, that's what god wants you to do. Doesn't matter if you sacrifice a 100x your own muslim brothers in the process. They die as martyrs. That's an express ticket to paradise.

I think this makes a theocratic regime even more dangerous than a (more or less) secular autocrat like MBS. These guys ultimately want something that's not in this world. How can make a deal with that?

nsingh210mo ago

The religious absolutism you criticize is present in Israel's current leadership. Smotrich and Ben Gvir call Gaza reconquest and West Bank annexation a religious duty, claim that it's a redemption. Justifying tens of thousands of Palestinian deaths and a war bill funded mostly by the US [1].

There is also hatred within the Israeli population against Arabs and Iranians in the region, and still that's no reason to justify continued aggression.

I'm seeing these no-nuance, dehumanizing, views everywhere on this thread, though I'm not sure why I expected better. Maybe because this "Iran big bad" rhetoric closely mirrors what happened during the Iraq war, and only helps justify further escalation.

[1] https://www.cfr.org/article/us-aid-israel-four-charts

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