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0 pointsedanm10mo ago0 comments

What does that matter? Are you saying you are more of an expert than everyone else?

Would you at least agree that yours is at the very least far from a mainstream opinion? I feel like you at least need to back it up with some evidence given that.

For the record, I have no formal expertise in anything related to this. I do live in Israel, have been living through the bombing campaigns, invasions etc of Iran's proxies for most of my life. The country that just "happened to be in the way".

Except in the case of Hezbollah (first Google result for "why was Hezbollah founded": "Hezbollah was conceived by Muslim clerics and funded by Iran primarily to fight the Israeli invasion of Lebanon."). And except in the case of Hamas, which governs the Gaza strip, on the border of Israel. This is the first time I've ever heard Hamas referred to as not mainly having to do with Israel, but with Saudi Arabia.

(In any case, differences in opinion aside, thank you for your service!)

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austin-cheney10mo ago

It matters because you suggested you asked for it.

So, are you saying the US must go war with Iran now because Hezbollah was founded 43 years ago and does not like Israel?

You are doing a really bad job of presenting anything coherent.

edanmOP10mo ago

> So, are you saying the US must go war with Iran now because Hezbollah was founded 43 years ago and does not like Israel?

No, I didn't say that, and I'm not sure why you're switching to talk about this.

I was specifically refuting this idea from the GP of this thread:

> Sort of. I think there was an effort to put a rules-based framework, still skewed towards the "great powers", but a framework nonetheless.

This and other parts of that comment implied that, up until now, there was a rules-based order, but this attack somehow goes against that.

I was pointing out that this doesn't make much sense to me, because Iran has been breaking that rules-based order for years and getting away with it. Saying that enforcing the order is the problem, and not the attempt to circumvent it, is IMO incorrect.

You're free to correct me on that idea if you disagree, it's certainly a debatable opinion. But the only thing you disagreed with me on (or at least the thing you called out) was that Iran wasn't funding proxies against Israel, it was to contain Saudi Arabia. That, unlike my alternative view of what the war signifies, is something that is at odds with reality.

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