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0 pointsyyyk10mo ago0 comments

>You have a deal, then you get another deal

>The only sensible move for any country is to develop a nuclear weapon as quickly and secretly as possible.

That's in contradiction, no? Except there never was any plan or idea on how to get another deal. Iran would have been in a position where no deal was possible, and all the same arguments against what happened now would actually apply against a x100 stronger Iran.

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sorcerer-mar10mo ago

I get the feeling you're willfully playing dumb, but to take it step by step:

Now, after having proven that deals mean nothing both in Ukraine and Iran, the only sensible move is to develop nuclear weapons.

Prior to us having broken both of these deals, there was a believable argument for the US being an honest broker who can ensure security in lieu of you having your own nuclear weapons.

> Except there never was any plan or idea on how to get another deal

What do you mean? You do the same thing again: economic normalization for non-proliferation.

yyykOP10mo ago

>Now, Prior

Ukraine started in 2014. Libya in 2011. The truth of the world was already clear at that point, as well as Iranian intentions. The JCPOA was never going to handle a Iranian nuke but would have facilitated it. You cannot use economic incentives to fix a broken world, and Iran had many other motives for nukes.

sorcerer-mar10mo ago

Big if true: you cannot use incentives to mitigate other incentives!

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sorcerer-mar10mo ago

I get the feeling you're willfully playing dumb, but to take it step by step:

Now, after having proven that deals mean nothing both in Ukraine and Iran, the only sensible move is to develop nuclear weapons.

Prior to us having broken both of these deals, there was a believable argument for the US being an honest broker who can ensure security in lieu of you having your own nuclear weapons.

> Except there never was any plan or idea on how to get another deal

What do you mean? You do the same thing again: economic normalization for non-proliferation.

yyykOP10mo ago

>Now, Prior

sorcerer-mar10mo ago

Big if true: you cannot use incentives to mitigate other incentives!

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