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85 pointsycuser29mo ago23 comments

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Fun to see that it implements codegen for Uxn :)

https://github.com/tsoding/b/blob/main/src/codegen/uxn.rs

https://wiki.xxiivv.com/site/uxn.html

Interesting that this is in a self-developed subset/dialect of Rust called Crust which attempts to treat it as a better C, using unsafe everywhere among other things.

kzrdude9mo ago

That's a little bit interesting. It remains then a C-like language with generics, and that sounds a lot more fun than regular C. I don't yet understand the point of avoiding references or libstd, though.

int_19h9mo ago

Avoiding references means avoiding the borrow checker, and I don't think you can use much of stdlib if you avoid references...

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IshKebab9mo ago

I don't know why you'd see that as desirable and not use Zig. Unsafe Rust is actually harder to get right than C or Zig.

month139mo ago

This is mainly for fun, really.

Tsoding's main lesson is how simple systems can be and the desire and demand for complex build systems is silly.

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avmich9mo ago

A pretty recent work: https://github.com/sergev/BCause .

int_19h9mo ago

Nice, but it really needs to be written in B and self-hosted.

aap_9mo ago

Always nice to see more B. Here's mine: https://github.com/aap/b

elvircrn9mo ago

Had a go at this a while back: https://github.com/elvircrn/bcomp.

louis7719mo ago

Hate to see Tsoding was using Rust for this. Rust is as far removed from recreational programming than any other language.

desumeku9mo ago

It's not rust. It's crust. https://github.com/tsoding/crust

"The Rules of Crust

Every function is unsafe. No references, only pointers. No cargo, build with rustc directly. No std, but libc is allowed. Only Edition 2021. All user structs and enums #[derive(Clone, Copy)]. Everything is pub by default."

paddw9mo ago

I think Rust is quite a recreational language.

The least recreational languages are probably like Java,C#

renerick9mo ago

Idk, java maybe, but c# doesn't even require .csproj files nowadays, it's really nice to use

IshKebab9mo ago

Why? It's a great language. Very productive. Ideal for compilers too.

sureglymop9mo ago

Is this satire or did you actually watch the streams?

He doesn't actually use rust "idiomatically". He calls this "crust":

1. Every function is unsafe

2. No references, only pointers

3. No cargo, just rustc

4. No std, only libc

...

I don't know if he is sticking to these rules throughout but that was the idea in the beginning of this project.

https://github.com/tsoding/Crust

DiabloD39mo ago

This is the most tsoding thing possible.

nurettin9mo ago

I have tsoding fatigue at this point. BTW are you the DiabloD3 from freenode/#sdl like 25 years ago?

DiabloD39mo ago

Yep, it is me.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse

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pveierland9mo ago

Fun to see that it implements codegen for Uxn :)

https://github.com/tsoding/b/blob/main/src/codegen/uxn.rs

https://wiki.xxiivv.com/site/uxn.html

treyd9mo ago

Interesting that this is in a self-developed subset/dialect of Rust called Crust which attempts to treat it as a better C, using unsafe everywhere among other things.

kzrdude9mo ago

int_19h9mo ago

Avoiding references means avoiding the borrow checker, and I don't think you can use much of stdlib if you avoid references...

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IshKebab9mo ago

I don't know why you'd see that as desirable and not use Zig. Unsafe Rust is actually harder to get right than C or Zig.

month139mo ago

This is mainly for fun, really.

Tsoding's main lesson is how simple systems can be and the desire and demand for complex build systems is silly.

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avmich9mo ago

A pretty recent work: https://github.com/sergev/BCause .