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0 pointsjoshstrange9mo ago0 comments

It’s the responsibility of individuals to continue learning. Choosing, and to be clear, it is a choice, to stop learning can have dire consequences.

We are now a few years into LLMs being widely available/used, and if someone’s chosen to stick their head in the sand and ignore what’s happening around them, then that’s on them.

> I think workplaces will have to allow people time to adapt.

This feels like a very outdated view to me. Maybe we are worse off for that being the case but by and large that will not happen. The people who take initiative and learn will advance, while the people who refused to learn anything new or change how they’ve been doing the job for XX years will be pushed out.

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bluefirebrand9mo ago

> It’s the responsibility of individuals to continue learning

Using AI is the opposite of learning.

I'm not just trying to be snarky and dismissive, either

That's the whole selling point of AI tools. "You can do this without learning it, because the AI knows how"

joshstrangeOP9mo ago

> That's the whole selling point of AI tools. "You can do this without learning it, because the AI knows how"

I'm sure we are veering into "No true Scotsman" territory but that's not the type of learning/tools I'm suggesting. "Vibe Coding" is a scourge for anything more than a one-off POC but LLMs themselves are very helpful in pinpointing errors, writing common blocks of code (Copilot auto-complete style), and even things like Aider/Claude Code can be used in a good way if and only if you are reviewing _all_ the code it generates.

As soon as you disconnect yourself from the code it's game over. If you find yourself saying "Well it does what I want, commit/ship it" then you're doing it wrong.

On the other hand, there are some people who refuse to use LLMs for a wide range of reasons ranging from silly to absurd. Those people will be passed by and have no one to blame but themselves. LLMs are simply another tool in the tool box.

I am not a horse cart driver, I am a transportation expert. If the means of transport changes/advances then so will I. I will not get bogged down in "I've been driving horses for XX years and that's what I want do till the day I die", that's just silly. You have to change with the times.

bluefirebrand9mo ago

> As soon as you disconnect yourself from the code it's game over

We agree on this

The only difference is that I view using LLM generated code as already a significant disconnect from the code, and you seem to think some LLM usage is possible without disconnecting from the code

Maybe you're right but I have been trying to use them this way and so far I find it makes me completely detached from what I'm building

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roboboffin9mo ago

The difference for me, is that things are changing too fast to keep up. For example, if a large part of your job is taken away seemingly overnight, by a new model, your whole job could change in a heartbeat.

What preparation are you supposed to do for this ? Previously, change was relatively slow and it was reasonable to keep up in your own time. I believe that is no longer possible.

harimau7779mo ago

I'm not sure that many people have time to continue learning. Certainly when one is young it is easy, but at some point people are spending their time outside of work building a life, raising a family, etc.

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0 pointsjoshstrange9mo ago0 comments

It’s the responsibility of individuals to continue learning. Choosing, and to be clear, it is a choice, to stop learning can have dire consequences.

We are now a few years into LLMs being widely available/used, and if someone’s chosen to stick their head in the sand and ignore what’s happening around them, then that’s on them.

> I think workplaces will have to allow people time to adapt.

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bluefirebrand9mo ago

> It’s the responsibility of individuals to continue learning

Using AI is the opposite of learning.

I'm not just trying to be snarky and dismissive, either

That's the whole selling point of AI tools. "You can do this without learning it, because the AI knows how"

joshstrangeOP9mo ago

> That's the whole selling point of AI tools. "You can do this without learning it, because the AI knows how"

As soon as you disconnect yourself from the code it's game over. If you find yourself saying "Well it does what I want, commit/ship it" then you're doing it wrong.

bluefirebrand9mo ago

> As soon as you disconnect yourself from the code it's game over

We agree on this

The only difference is that I view using LLM generated code as already a significant disconnect from the code, and you seem to think some LLM usage is possible without disconnecting from the code

Maybe you're right but I have been trying to use them this way and so far I find it makes me completely detached from what I'm building

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roboboffin9mo ago

What preparation are you supposed to do for this ? Previously, change was relatively slow and it was reasonable to keep up in your own time. I believe that is no longer possible.

harimau7779mo ago

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