It feels like using Siri and not knowing the magic words. Come on Apple, synonym matching is easy. Just use a LLM to generate synonyms to all things a user might query in settings! Use a small embedding model if you feel daring, it works fast enough.
Oh, this reminds me that Azure, GCP and AWS also need AI assistants that actually know their way around instead of declining to help for anything above looking up some docs. Why can't I ask Azure in what region the still have A100 GPUs? That's what the assistant should be good at - integration with live data and ability to solve cloud problems.
(Because, yes, I feel your pain.)
And it applies to all apple operating systems.
Basic UX is not sexy nowadays.
Filing bug reports about specific instances might be a useful way to help fix this?
Why would you do that? It's as iconic as the Apple silhouette for Apple users.
If you've ever used MacOS, you've had that face stare back at you. It's a kind face. A friendly face. An old face. An old friend. Let's keep it that way.
edit - on further thought, was this change user tested? I'm fairly certain that even the most middle-of-the-road, suburban dad on his 10th layover will notice something is different when they look at it. It's a strange change.
It's not different enough to force recognition as a new symbol. It's just different enough to be weird.
Trying to ditch twitter and tweets. I’ve yet to hear any normal person call it X yet.
Which kind of proves your point.
TBH, it's better if this new generation of Apple's UI designers waste their energy on such trivialities instead of trying to "improve" Finder features (not that Finder is all that great to begin with though).
Let them tinker with icons, fonts, colors and "evoking emotions" all day long, at least then they don't break any actually important stuff.
> Why would you do that? It's as iconic as the Apple silhouette for Apple users.
> If you've ever used MacOS, you've had that face stare back at you. It's a kind face. A friendly face. An old face. An old friend. Let's keep it that way.
I mean ... not all Apple users, not all MacOS users. I've been using Macs since the late 90s (daily since ~2004) and maybe I'm entirely unique in this, but if you'd asked me prior to TFA and this discussion to describe the Finder icon ... I likely wouldn't have been able to tell you anything except "it's topmost in my Dock". Seriously, I couldn't have told you the colours (nor did I notice that Tahoe has flipped them); I definitely wouldn't have said "essential", "kind" or "friendly"; and I probably wouldn't even have recalled that it's a face. It's just that icon that's always topmost in my Dock that I haven't clicked in years because, well, Spotlight.
The new Finder logo has so much meaning symbolically for me. It actually has a very ugly meaning to me.
I felt that it is the end of the road for me. My first Mac was a Powermac 7300/200.
btw, nobody ever mentioned that the red close button is next to the minimize button. This is similar to the close button being next to the maximize button on Windows. Just reversed.
On Mac OS classic the close window button is on its own. I really miss Mac OS classic.
I use it as an external brain. I love that the Finder is spatial and has a one-to-one relationship between windows and documents and files and icons… and I benefit from it leaving icons where I put them
And sometimes I play great 90s/2k games on my external brain :)
To the many people ITT who seem to be puzzled by this kind of complaint, the issue is that it suggests someone at some point said "what if we flipped the Finder icon?", for which no valid answer appears to exist, making it unwarranted and unsatisfying. It also suggests their priorities are off.
On the new icon, I see a "smiley face", and if I concentrate a little, there's a "guy in the background".
I like the newer icon.
And, to be fair, this is the most thought I've ever put into it. So, there's that as well to consider.
Is it 2023/accounts.xlsx or 2024/accounts.xlsx or 2025/accounts.xlsx? Who knows!
This obession of Apple with leaving space is absurd.
In Sequoia they added a window management system which (by default) leaves spaces between windows. What was the point of getting more display real state in laptops to waste it like this?
To me the bigger issue is by not having it go to the edge, it really breaks the one face/two face original design.
And it looks worse somehow in dark mode (but to be fair, everything is worse in dark mode right now in beta1, but Safari is the one that needs discussing) : https://ibb.co/CLhJ4XM
* Brilliant artists use Apple.
* Apple computers help you see from multiple perspectives.
But now that Apple is more in the business of selling bling to strippers and drug dealers, and less in the business of selling gear to creative professionals, sticking to its aesthetic identity is way less important. Not when there are concerns like "blowing up on TikTok" to worry about.
I installed the beta immediately yesterday and didn't notice until this post. I've been using Macs for 20 years.
So, ‘forever’, they subtly associated left-handedness with the dark side? About time that they changed that (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias_against_left-handed_peopl...)
:-)
The only thing the author wants to do here is a fandom flex.
Ironically, his pictures prove that the icons have changed a lot! What’s the canonical face anyway? You can look at the prior icon and argue they broke canon there removing the black center stroke and clipping the overflowing line.
Darker on the left, lighter on the right. Flush with the surrounding box. Evokes the feeling of two people: one looking straight at you, and one profile face.
Even the profile face is broken in the new redesign.
