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0 pointstw049mo ago0 comments

But also it potentially means mass unemployment and we have literally no plan in place if that happens beyond complete societal collapse.

Even if you think all the naysayers are “luddites”, do you really think it’s a great idea to have no backup plan beyond “whupps we all die or just go back to the Stone Age”?

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snowwrestler9mo ago

We actually have many backup plans. The most effective ones will be the new business plans that unlock investment which is what creates new jobs. But behind that are a large set of government policies and services that help people who have lost work. And behind that are private resources like charities, nonprofits, even friends and family.

People don’t want society to collapse. So if you think it’s something that people can prevent, feel comforted that everyone is trying to prevent it.

alluro29mo ago

Compared to 30-40 years ago, I believe many in the US would argue that society has already collapsed to a significant extent, with regards to healthcare, education, housing, cost of life, homelessness levels etc.

If these mechanisms you mention are in place and functioning, why is there, for example, such large growth of the economic inequality gap?

ccorcos9mo ago

> do you really think it’s a great idea to have no backup plan

What makes you think people haven’t made back up plans?

Or are you saying government needs to do it for us?

argomo9mo ago

Ah yes the old "let's make individuals responsible for solving societal problems" bit. Nevermind that the state is sometimes the only entity capable of addressing the situation at scale.

ccorcos9mo ago

Yes, I believe individuals should take responsibility for themselves and their future prosperity. We all know what happens when you don’t…

History has shown us quite clearly what happens if governments, and not individuals, are responsible for finding employment.

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Nasrudith9mo ago

That is literally part of the deal of not living in a literal dictatorship. It is your responsibility to solve societal problems. I mean, geeze what did they teach in civic classes in your generation?

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snowwrestler9mo ago

People don’t want society to collapse. So if you think it’s something that people can prevent, feel comforted that everyone is trying to prevent it.

alluro29mo ago

If these mechanisms you mention are in place and functioning, why is there, for example, such large growth of the economic inequality gap?

ccorcos9mo ago

> do you really think it’s a great idea to have no backup plan

What makes you think people haven’t made back up plans?

Or are you saying government needs to do it for us?

argomo9mo ago

Ah yes the old "let's make individuals responsible for solving societal problems" bit. Nevermind that the state is sometimes the only entity capable of addressing the situation at scale.

ccorcos9mo ago

Yes, I believe individuals should take responsibility for themselves and their future prosperity. We all know what happens when you don’t…

History has shown us quite clearly what happens if governments, and not individuals, are responsible for finding employment.

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Nasrudith9mo ago

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