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0 pointshannob10mo ago0 comments

> Some people don't want to be forced to run a bunch of stuff they > don't understand on the server, and I agree with them.

Honest question:

* Do you understand OS syscalls in detail?

* Do you understand how your BIOS initializes your hardware?

* Do you understand how modern filesystems work?

* Do you understand the finer details of HTTP or TCP?

Because... I don't. But I know enough about them that I'm quite convinced each of them is a lot more difficult to understand than ACME. And all of them and a lot more stuff are required if you want to run a web server.

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sussmannbaka10mo ago

This point is so tired. I don’t understand how a thought forms in my neurons, eventually matures into a decision and how the wires in my head translate this into electrical pulses to my finger muscles to type this post so I guess I can’t have opinions about complexity.

snowwrestler10mo ago

I get where you’re going with this, but in this particular case it might not be relevant because there’s a decent chance that Rachel By The Bay does actually understand all those things.

frogsRnice10mo ago

Sure - but people are still free to decide where they draw the line.

Each extra bit of software is an additional attack surface after all

fc417fc80210mo ago

An OS is (at least generally) a prerequisite. If minimalism is your goal then you'd want to eliminate tangentially related things that aren't part of the underlying requirements.

If you're a fan of left-pad I won't judge but don't expect me to partake without bitter complaints.

kjs310mo ago

I hear some variation of this line of 'reasoning' about once a week, and it's always followed by some variation of "...and that's why we shouldn't have to do all this security stuff you want us to do".

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