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0 pointsmdhb1y ago0 comments

Thanks for that insight. Obviously there’s a lot of context in there that isn’t at all clear outside.

One part I find hard to reconcile with all of that is that even just looking at public facing stuff alone it seems to be under VERY active development.

I count 100 commits in just the past 24 hrs here: https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/fuchsia/+log and it’s been at that pace for a LONG time.

Which leads me to ask… what is up with it in your opinion because that’s hard to match up with DOA

Also I wasn’t making up the idea that they were in the process of bringing in this “microfuchsia” VM into Android although it’s purpose is unclear.

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refulgentis1y ago· 1 in thread

You're seeing the public facing side of it as a wholesale Android replacement, think of this repo as the tip of the iceberg: well, it used to be, but the rest of the iceberg disappeared.

It's still shipping, successfully, on millions(?) of devices yearly via Nest Hubs and such. Never say never. But all public-facing signs are fairly clear, the big move is ChromeOS into Android, not Android onto Fuchsia - and note how invested Google is in the Nest Hubs (read: not at all, languished for years now)

(I'm also curious if we could get a stats-based thing on, say, 2019 vs. 2024, My out-of-thin-air prior would be 30% more activity in 2019 than now. But I also figured there was 10 commits a day now, not 100.)

(I tried checking out the whole repo, but then all the apps on my macbook informed me en masse there was 0 disk space left :X Doesn't look like there's a GitHub mirror)

(cheers btw, you're my kind of people, one of the more soul-sucking parts of Google was finding out that kind of person is few, and far between) (i.e. curious and into It, not just here to make your boss or partner happy)

mdhbOP1y ago

I guess that’s the thing, when I now look at the commits it’s way past what’s reasonable for nest. I see chromium is rolled back in for example, flutter is back in there, everything seems to be getting the bazel treatment, I see a bunch of non publicly announced releases this year… like things are clearly happening on some level in a way that’s not entirely consistent with the idea of a product that is in the midst of a death roll.

Do you think it’s possible that thinking evolved slightly beyond the number of devices shipped in the meantime perhaps?

I’d always been on the opinion of even just assuming they got to a point where the whole starnix linux syscall compatibility layer thing (which is what I see a lot of recent commits pointing towards) to a good point and stopped that it would still make sense in so many use cases that it would have been justified.

It would also change the number of devices shipped question from 1 dying product line to billions overnight which certainly might change the conversation and furthermore would put them into a pretty unique commercial position for more high assurance computing given the security model which would have a lot of follow on effects presumably

Also thanks again for taking the time to answer, you’re right I am genuinely very curious about this.

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